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Lugh Crow-Slave
#21 - 2017-02-10 14:17:44 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5

halo

snake

crystal

slave

ect


B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing..


Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc.

Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example?


Is it really all that likely that a new player is dropping a few hundred mil (or a few bil for high grades) on a pirate implant set in the first place? Without bothering to show info on any of them, or even scroll through the market windows? Or, y'know, ask someone?





......

Yes....Cry

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Cade Windstalker
#22 - 2017-02-10 15:44:26 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Is it really all that likely that a new player is dropping a few hundred mil (or a few bil for high grades) on a pirate implant set in the first place? Without bothering to show info on any of them, or even scroll through the market windows? Or, y'know, ask someone?





......

Yes....Cry


I believe that's called economic stimulus.

Also an important and expensive lesson for anyone with all that money and all that lack of reading... Roll
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#23 - 2017-02-10 17:28:17 UTC
Are you saying a high-grade snake set is not so good in a moros?

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#24 - 2017-02-10 18:20:47 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5

halo

snake

crystal

slave

ect


B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing..


Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc.

Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example?



how does a new player know a moa uses rails? that a condor is missiles and shields? that a omen is quick but still tanks like a boss?


There's this large new symbol on the left side of your screen. If you click on it, it shows every major ship in EVE. Complete with pictures and everything. That's obviously different from having to search through the market to read the description of something one by one.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#25 - 2017-02-10 19:58:58 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:


Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc.

Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example?


All the implants are in one place on the market. Show info on one and you can quickly figure out what everything within that set does. Just check one of each name. There aren't that many sets. How much of a spoilt brat do you have to be to refuse to show info on maybe 10 items.


Should we apply your logic to everything? Rename Minmatar to 'the speedy guys with pea shooters, missiles, drones some armour some shield, some neither' and Gallente to 'frenchy in yo' face brawlers and has drones folks'.

Has reading more than two sentences become so ******* unbearable...?

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Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2017-02-10 20:37:11 UTC
Captain Campion wrote:


[snip]

Inherent Implants 'Squire' *
means
Capacitor *
?

There's just no way a person can know this?..

[snip]

There's a second part to this relating to the percentage being at the end, so in my market UI I see:

Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....

I know I can resize it, but it's totally avoidable.



Wut? Let me help you:

Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....

Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....

'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-....

'Squire' Capacitor Management

'Squire' Capacitor

Does that help? Roll

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2017-02-10 20:42:59 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5

halo

snake

crystal

slave

ect


B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing..


Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc.

Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example?


Is it really all that likely that a new player is dropping a few hundred mil (or a few bil for high grades) on a pirate implant set in the first place? Without bothering to show info on any of them, or even scroll through the market windows? Or, y'know, ask someone?





......

Yes....Cry


Then they're idiots and deserve what they get. Sorry, but the mollycoddling has to stop somewhere.

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2017-02-10 20:44:54 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5

halo

snake

crystal

slave

ect


B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing..


Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc.

Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example?



how does a new player know a moa uses rails? that a condor is missiles and shields? that a omen is quick but still tanks like a boss?


There's this large new symbol on the left side of your screen. If you click on it, it shows every major ship in EVE. Complete with pictures and everything. That's obviously different from having to search through the market to read the description of something one by one.


I know it's awesome. I think it's great how it tells people how to best fit each ship, and which ships are completely useless right now because of the proliferation of other ships. That's totally great for new players.

Oh wait...

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#29 - 2017-02-10 23:33:57 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:


Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc.

Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example?


All the implants are in one place on the market. Show info on one and you can quickly figure out what everything within that set does. Just check one of each name. There aren't that many sets. How much of a spoilt brat do you have to be to refuse to show info on maybe 10 items.


Should we apply your logic to everything? Rename Minmatar to 'the speedy guys with pea shooters, missiles, drones some armour some shield, some neither' and Gallente to 'frenchy in yo' face brawlers and has drones folks'.

Has reading more than two sentences become so ******* unbearable...?


My logic? Renaming? I think you've confused me with someone else.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#30 - 2017-02-11 02:38:54 UTC
Your logic: noobs are so dumb they take names literally and are incapable of pressing show info.

What about the word 'minmatar' explains to new players the design philosophy of minmatar ships? Nothing. They look it up.

You're trying to make out as though looking up the implants in the market is difficult or time consuming. It's not.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Lugh Crow-Slave
#31 - 2017-02-11 03:28:08 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
going to go ahead and assume he is talking about slot 1-5

halo

snake

crystal

slave

ect


B-b-but those are pirate sets. For me it is crystal clear what slaves are doing..


Halos make your ship glow, snakes makes them move in weird, wave like patterns, crystals make your ship transparent and slaves enslave other players, etc.

Really, as much as I like the lore-names, let's not pretend a new player could easily learn how they work just by looking at them. How would a new player get that Virtue-implants have something to do with scanning, for example?



how does a new player know a moa uses rails? that a condor is missiles and shields? that a omen is quick but still tanks like a boss?


There's this large new symbol on the left side of your screen. If you click on it, it shows every major ship in EVE. Complete with pictures and everything. That's obviously different from having to search through the market to read the description of something one by one.



yeah thats so much different you get from the list of plants for each slot in the marketRoll

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