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so this is there real future for new players? gate camp?

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Cade Windstalker
#621 - 2017-02-23 21:08:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Cade Windstalker
Amojin wrote:
Do a whole search of how many words were in the DSM-IV. How many more new 'diagnoses' can be made in the DSM-V?

Also, how does something get into the manual? A bunch of priests of secular humanism get together and vote. Sounds familiar...


Most of the changes from the DSM-IV to DSM-V were changes not additions. Also word count is not relevant.

Priests play no role in the DSM's approval or anything similar.

Seriously, the depth of your ignorance on this subject is staggering. It's like you heard a guy on talk radio ranting about psychologists and just took everything he said as fact, even the hyperbole.

Teckos Pech wrote:
Ahhhhh Cade, he is sucking you into the off topic discussion.... P


I was kind of hoping he'd stop running off topic when someone threw a few facts in his way, but no such luck.

So, how about them gate camps? :D
Amojin
Doomheim
#622 - 2017-02-23 21:16:28 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Amojin wrote:
Do a whole search of how many words were in the DSM-IV. How many more new 'diagnoses' can be made in the DSM-V?

Also, how does something get into the manual? A bunch of priests of secular humanism get together and vote. Sounds familiar...


Most of the changes from the DSM-IV to DSM-V were changes not additions. Also word count is not relevant.

Priests play no role in the DSM's approval or anything similar.

Seriously, the depth of your ignorance on this subject is staggering. It's like you heard a guy on talk radio ranting about psychologists and just took everything he said as fact, even the hyperbole.

Teckos Pech wrote:
Ahhhhh Cade, he is sucking you into the off topic discussion.... P


I was kind of hoping he'd stop running off topic when someone threw a few facts in his way, but no such luck.

So, how about them gate camps? :D


You no doubt read my comment about Alex Jones' show. I do listen to the man, yes. I find his understanding of theology sub-par, I find his understanding of science, hard science, sub par. But I DO find his heart in the right place. I DO find his struggle to report the truth to be virtuous. I DO check his references, and Drudge, and a host of others. In some cases, they are overreacting to stupid crap. In other cases, they have said truly.

If you need to make the link between me and the Infowars show to discredit me, even though I don't always agree with it, then fine.

I have my own mind. I read the enemy publications, too. I take their classes. I sat in Seminary, and I sat in secular college and learned psych and philosophy. Some things I agree with - they are basic truths. Some extentions of that basic truth, into absolute insanity of theory? No.

The absolute most insanity I ever saw was in psych profs.
Teckos Pech
Patriotic Tendencies
Goonswarm Federation
#623 - 2017-02-23 21:19:43 UTC
Must resist....must resist....awwww dammit.

Word counts, the hallmark of a true pseudo-scientist.

Me: "I can tell you everything about that book!"
Cade: "Oh, you read it?"
Me: "No, but I did a thorough analysis! I counted all the words, paragraphs, sentences, and even punctuation marks. I can tell you how many words are on each page for instance. And in each sentence, and paragraph. I can tell you how many times he use the word 'the' and how many ampersands. In fact, I have a detailed report here complete with summary statistics."
Cade: "Okay, but what is the book about?"
Me: "Wat­™? To do that I'd have to read it, not analyze it. Sheesh, that isn't scientific."

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8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Amojin
Doomheim
#624 - 2017-02-23 21:21:15 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Must resist....must resist....awwww dammit.

Word counts, the hallmark of a true pseudo-scientist.

Me: "I can tell you everything about that book!"
Cade: "Oh, you read it?"
Me: "No, but I did a thorough analysis! I counted all the words, paragraphs, sentences, and even punctuation marks. I can tell you how many words are on each page for instance. And in each sentence, and paragraph. I can tell you how many times he use the word 'the' and how many ampersands. In fact, I have a detailed report here complete with summary statistics."
Cade: "Okay, but what is the book about?"
Me: "Wat­™? To do that I'd have to read it, not analyze it. Sheesh, that isn't scientific."


It's not the word count. I was being nice, but aww, hell. The actual amount of conditions in the DSM-V has risen, dramatically.

You can sell more pills if you have more options.
Cade Windstalker
#625 - 2017-02-23 21:22:52 UTC
Amojin wrote:
You no doubt read my comment about Alex Jones' show. I do listen to the man, yes. I find his understanding of theology sub-par, I find his understanding of science, hard science, sub par. But I DO find his heart in the right place. I DO find his struggle to report the truth to be virtuous. I DO check his references, and Drudge, and a host of others. In some cases, they are overreacting to stupid crap. In other cases, they have said truly.

If you need to make the link between me and the Infowars show to discredit me, even though I don't always agree with it, then fine.

I have my own mind. I read the enemy publications, too. I take their classes. I sat in Seminary, and I sat in secular college and learned psych and philosophy. Some things I agree with - they are basic truths. Some extentions of that basic truth, into absolute insanity of theory? No.

The absolute most insanity I ever saw was in psych profs.


I hadn't actually, wasn't aware you'd actually mentioned talk radio, it's just my go-to for something that's loud and bombastically ignorant on the topic it's discussing. The fact that you actually listen to that stuff is hilarious Lol

I find it much less likely that you ever sat through a psych class, let alone learned anything from it, because you've been making factual errors that any day 1 Psych 101 student could have corrected.

Now, shall we veer back on topic and away from politics, or are you going to get another thread locked for politics and off-topic posting?
Amojin
Doomheim
#626 - 2017-02-23 21:25:09 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Amojin wrote:
You no doubt read my comment about Alex Jones' show. I do listen to the man, yes. I find his understanding of theology sub-par, I find his understanding of science, hard science, sub par. But I DO find his heart in the right place. I DO find his struggle to report the truth to be virtuous. I DO check his references, and Drudge, and a host of others. In some cases, they are overreacting to stupid crap. In other cases, they have said truly.

If you need to make the link between me and the Infowars show to discredit me, even though I don't always agree with it, then fine.

I have my own mind. I read the enemy publications, too. I take their classes. I sat in Seminary, and I sat in secular college and learned psych and philosophy. Some things I agree with - they are basic truths. Some extentions of that basic truth, into absolute insanity of theory? No.

The absolute most insanity I ever saw was in psych profs.


I hadn't actually, wasn't aware you'd actually mentioned talk radio, it's just my go-to for something that's loud and bombastically ignorant on the topic it's discussing. The fact that you actually listen to that stuff is hilarious Lol

I find it much less likely that you ever sat through a psych class, let alone learned anything from it, because you've been making factual errors that any day 1 Psych 101 student could have corrected.

Now, shall we veer back on topic and away from politics, or are you going to get another thread locked for politics and off-topic posting?



That's funny. I would have thought me reading the Bhagavad-Gita or the Koran to be the more amusing. But, whatever.
Cade Windstalker
#627 - 2017-02-23 21:25:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Cade Windstalker
Amojin wrote:
It's not the word count. I was being nice, but aww, hell. The actual amount of conditions in the DSM-V has risen, dramatically.

You can sell more pills if you have more options.


This is flatly false LolLolLol

The DSM-4 and 5 have almost the same number of conditions, the main changes were organizational and in the details of diagnosis and treatment.

Seriously, it's like you haven't double checked *any of this*.



So, Techos, thoughts on gate camps, Tama, and/or new players?

Personally I tend to go with avoid, avoid, and teach Big smile
Amojin
Doomheim
#628 - 2017-02-23 21:27:22 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
I find it much less likely that you ever sat through a psych class, let alone learned anything from it, because you've been making factual errors that any day 1 Psych 101 student could have corrected.


Parroting crap you learned by rote, is not 'correcting.' Being able to explain it in your own words, and relate it to the real world, I might buy that. But, no, just sitting like a silent little slave, absorbing bs to re-iterate like a parrot is not what I call learning, and no, I don't let parrots 'correct' me.
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
Snuffed Out
#629 - 2017-02-23 21:27:52 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Amojin wrote:
You no doubt read my comment about Alex Jones' show. I do listen to the man, yes. I find his understanding of theology sub-par, I find his understanding of science, hard science, sub par. But I DO find his heart in the right place. I DO find his struggle to report the truth to be virtuous. I DO check his references, and Drudge, and a host of others. In some cases, they are overreacting to stupid crap. In other cases, they have said truly.

If you need to make the link between me and the Infowars show to discredit me, even though I don't always agree with it, then fine.

I have my own mind. I read the enemy publications, too. I take their classes. I sat in Seminary, and I sat in secular college and learned psych and philosophy. Some things I agree with - they are basic truths. Some extentions of that basic truth, into absolute insanity of theory? No.

The absolute most insanity I ever saw was in psych profs.


I hadn't actually, wasn't aware you'd actually mentioned talk radio, it's just my go-to for something that's loud and bombastically ignorant on the topic it's discussing. The fact that you actually listen to that stuff is hilarious Lol

I find it much less likely that you ever sat through a psych class, let alone learned anything from it, because you've been making factual errors that any day 1 Psych 101 student could have corrected.

Now, shall we veer back on topic and away from politics, or are you going to get another thread locked for politics and off-topic posting?



That's funny. I would have thought me reading the Bhagavad-Gita or the Koran to be the more amusing. But, whatever.


the Quran?

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Salvos Rhoska
#630 - 2017-02-23 21:29:03 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Must resist....must resist....awwww dammit.
Word counts, the hallmark of a true pseudo-scientist.

Couple days ago I remembered there was a way to check players posting statistics.

I ofc checked mine, but I also checked yours out of curiosity and for comparison.
I thought I posted a lot, and a lot of long essays, but you blew me completely out of the water. :D
(Dunno if quotations are counted though)

They should integrate these stats as a function into the new forum system.
Very interesting data.
Amojin
Doomheim
#631 - 2017-02-23 21:30:18 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Amojin wrote:
It's not the word count. I was being nice, but aww, hell. The actual amount of conditions in the DSM-V has risen, dramatically.

You can sell more pills if you have more options.


This is flatly false LolLolLol

The DSM-4 and 5 have almost the same number of conditions, the main changes were organizational and in the details of diagnosis and treatment.

Seriously, it's like you haven't double checked *any of this*.



So, Techos, thoughts on gate camps, Tama, and/or new players?

Personally I tend to go with avoid, avoid, and teach Big smile


http://www.tdcaa.com/journal/significant-changes-dsm-iv-dsm-5
Amojin
Doomheim
#632 - 2017-02-23 21:33:48 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Quran?


Yeah, that's how they like to spell it, now. When I was in school, it was transliterated as Koran.
Teckos Pech
Patriotic Tendencies
Goonswarm Federation
#633 - 2017-02-23 21:34:17 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Amojin wrote:
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Amojin wrote:
You no doubt read my comment about Alex Jones' show. I do listen to the man, yes. I find his understanding of theology sub-par, I find his understanding of science, hard science, sub par. But I DO find his heart in the right place. I DO find his struggle to report the truth to be virtuous. I DO check his references, and Drudge, and a host of others. In some cases, they are overreacting to stupid crap. In other cases, they have said truly.

If you need to make the link between me and the Infowars show to discredit me, even though I don't always agree with it, then fine.

I have my own mind. I read the enemy publications, too. I take their classes. I sat in Seminary, and I sat in secular college and learned psych and philosophy. Some things I agree with - they are basic truths. Some extentions of that basic truth, into absolute insanity of theory? No.

The absolute most insanity I ever saw was in psych profs.


I hadn't actually, wasn't aware you'd actually mentioned talk radio, it's just my go-to for something that's loud and bombastically ignorant on the topic it's discussing. The fact that you actually listen to that stuff is hilarious Lol

I find it much less likely that you ever sat through a psych class, let alone learned anything from it, because you've been making factual errors that any day 1 Psych 101 student could have corrected.

Now, shall we veer back on topic and away from politics, or are you going to get another thread locked for politics and off-topic posting?



That's funny. I would have thought me reading the Bhagavad-Gita or the Koran to be the more amusing. But, whatever.


the Quran?


I love Korean food? Anyone else?

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Amojin
Doomheim
#634 - 2017-02-23 21:35:40 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Amojin wrote:
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Amojin wrote:
You no doubt read my comment about Alex Jones' show. I do listen to the man, yes. I find his understanding of theology sub-par, I find his understanding of science, hard science, sub par. But I DO find his heart in the right place. I DO find his struggle to report the truth to be virtuous. I DO check his references, and Drudge, and a host of others. In some cases, they are overreacting to stupid crap. In other cases, they have said truly.

If you need to make the link between me and the Infowars show to discredit me, even though I don't always agree with it, then fine.

I have my own mind. I read the enemy publications, too. I take their classes. I sat in Seminary, and I sat in secular college and learned psych and philosophy. Some things I agree with - they are basic truths. Some extentions of that basic truth, into absolute insanity of theory? No.

The absolute most insanity I ever saw was in psych profs.


I hadn't actually, wasn't aware you'd actually mentioned talk radio, it's just my go-to for something that's loud and bombastically ignorant on the topic it's discussing. The fact that you actually listen to that stuff is hilarious Lol

I find it much less likely that you ever sat through a psych class, let alone learned anything from it, because you've been making factual errors that any day 1 Psych 101 student could have corrected.

Now, shall we veer back on topic and away from politics, or are you going to get another thread locked for politics and off-topic posting?



That's funny. I would have thought me reading the Bhagavad-Gita or the Koran to be the more amusing. But, whatever.


the Quran?


I love Korean food? Anyone else?


Kimchi and Bulgogi. Not too fond of the wiggling squid on a stick.
Salvos Rhoska
#635 - 2017-02-23 21:40:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Amojin wrote:
You can sell more pills if you have more options.


Doesnt Alex Jones sell "Super Male Vitality" pills?
Amojin
Doomheim
#636 - 2017-02-23 21:43:34 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Amojin wrote:
You can sell more pills if you have more options.


Doesnt Alex Jones sell "Male Vitality" pills?


Yeah, he sells all sorts of stupid crap. Right now I only buy two of them, though. DNA force is a good one, price-wise, to other comparable formulas, and the probiotic one is a good deal, too. Sometime he'll discount Oxy-Powder, and I'll buy it, then, otherwise I get it from Amazon.
Salvos Rhoska
#637 - 2017-02-23 21:46:03 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Yeah, he sells all sorts of stupid crap. Right now I only buy two of them, though..


Hmmm...
Amojin
Doomheim
#638 - 2017-02-23 21:53:47 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Amojin wrote:
Yeah, he sells all sorts of stupid crap. Right now I only buy two of them, though..


Hmmm...



Hmm. Indeed. There is a vast difference in selling supplements, and being an 'authority' with a prescription pad. A lot of the stuff the guy sells is useful to people that have those problems, at least as good as general supplements go. If you can save some money, why not?

But no, he's not 'diagnosing you,' like an authority, so you can just stop.
Salvos Rhoska
#639 - 2017-02-23 21:58:25 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Amojin wrote:
Yeah, he sells all sorts of stupid crap. Right now I only buy two of them, though..


Hmmm...

Hmm. Indeed. There is a vast difference in selling supplements, and being an 'authority' with a prescription pad. A lot of the stuff the guy sells is useful to people that have those problems, at least as good as general supplements go. If you can save some money, why not?

But no, he's not 'diagnosing you,' like an authority, so you can just stop.


The purpose of a supplement is to improve your health, is it not?
Amojin
Doomheim
#640 - 2017-02-23 21:59:31 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
The purpose of a supplement is to improve your health, is it not?


Well, yes, clearly.