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PSA Null is safer than High Sec

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47 6f 64
Chilastra Syndicate
#1 - 2017-02-04 09:35:19 UTC
It's true.

If I win please Evemail me.

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2017-02-04 09:40:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
Someone with that name should know better than to be a pathetic troll.

However, as usual - if you think this is true, jump in a ship and autopilot from highsec to nullsec. I'm sure you'll be fine once you hit null.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Caterpil
The Grey Eagles
#3 - 2017-02-04 10:37:42 UTC
I'm sure those nullsec folks will disagree. After all we hear all the time how they can't even undock if there is an AFK cloaked frigate in local. Thats got to mean there's some sort of massive threat right?...

Right?....
Dark Lord Trump
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2017-02-04 12:07:43 UTC
PSA: Space is as safe as you make it. Nullsec people are just a hell of a lot better at it.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!

Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
#5 - 2017-02-04 12:37:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaxon Grylls
Dark Lord Trump wrote:
PSA: Space is as safe as you make it. Nullsec people are just a hell of a lot better at it.

Well if by being a "hell of a lot better" you mean by being better at arranging to be surrounded by blue doughnuts, then yes, you are right.

Note to self. I really must stop feeding the trolls.
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2017-02-04 12:40:59 UTC
Jaxon Grylls wrote:
Note to self. I really must stop feeding the trolls.

Or just stop being a troll. Either is ok.

If you think there is still a blue donut, you're a bit out of touch.

However, even if there were, then yes, nullsec players seem to be better at all aspects of the game.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Wolfgang Jannesen
Czerka.
#7 - 2017-02-04 15:01:04 UTC
47 6f 64 wrote:
It's true.


You sound like everybody who's ever hot dropped on top of me. Don't feed me your lies
Torin Corax
Game of Roams
#8 - 2017-02-04 15:15:31 UTC
For the most part, the more dangerous an area is perceived to be, the more careful people are likely to be in that area. Subsequently (with some exceptions) those that live in Null are safer because they are less complacent about their safety.

Far too many High sec dwellers simply refuse to take the most basic of precautions, subsequently they make pathetically easy targets for those that know how to play the game.

If you take a reasonable degree of personal responsibility for your own safety in high sec, you are damn near untouchable.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#9 - 2017-02-04 15:31:39 UTC
Anyone want some candy...?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

47 6f 64
Chilastra Syndicate
#10 - 2017-02-04 18:09:41 UTC
Torin Corax wrote:
For the most part, the more dangerous an area is perceived to be, the more careful people are likely to be in that area. Subsequently (with some exceptions) those that live in Null are safer because they are less complacent about their safety.

Far too many High sec dwellers simply refuse to take the most basic of precautions, subsequently they make pathetically easy targets for those that know how to play the game.

If you take a reasonable degree of personal responsibility for your own safety in high sec, you are damn near untouchable.


Complacency is the key. And it will always happen. People in High-Sec, especially noobs that don't understand the game will think they are in care bear land and free to AFK/do what they want. And then they get butt hurt when they can't.

If I win please Evemail me.

Lugh Crow-Slave
#11 - 2017-02-04 18:11:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Someone with that name should know better than to be a pathetic troll.

However, as usual - if you think this is true, jump in a ship and autopilot from highsec to nullsec. I'm sure you'll be fine once you hit null.



Wait are you trying to say hs is safer? Lol what game are you playing intel channels and bubbles let me afk rat in vni all damn day with 0 real threat

When you know who is hostile and have 0 penalty for shooting first life is a lot safer
Torin Corax
Game of Roams
#12 - 2017-02-04 18:45:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Torin Corax
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Someone with that name should know better than to be a pathetic troll.

However, as usual - if you think this is true, jump in a ship and autopilot from highsec to nullsec. I'm sure you'll be fine once you hit null.



Wait are you trying to say hs is safer? Lol what game are you playing intel channels and bubbles let me afk rat in vni all damn day with 0 real threat

When you know who is hostile and have 0 penalty for shooting first life is a lot safer


Some parts of high sec are safer than others.
Some parts of Null are safer than others.
Some parts of low sec are safer than others.

Some parts of Null are safer than some parts of High...and so on.

Intel channels require (some) effort to maintain with up to date info, and they need to be monitored by the players who actually want to use them to remain "safe".
Bubbles require some effort to put up, and are largely useless on their own if there is no-one around to utilize them for defensive purposes.

So...is null sec inherently safer than High? Or is it that those who live and thrive in null are taking steps, both as individuals and groups to maintain as safe an operational area as possible?

If an individual in high sec spent the same amount of effort maintaining standings, anti-gank channels, fitting responsibly etc. would they not be just as safe?

I've lost ships in Null ( because I was PvP'ing mostly), and I've lost ships in High ( Because I was PvP'ing)...I've only ever lost one ship that I can remember when I wasn't looking for a fight, and that was in Null sec. (Not counting my first loss during the tutorial back before the new player experience actively discouraged ganking noobs in "learner" systems).

I may of lost a couple in Low sec when traveling, I honestly don't remember.

High sec is stupidly safe if you want it to be. Then again so is Null. Put in the required effort and pretty much everywhere in Eve is "safe". Whether or not the effort required is actually worth it though...that's a different argument.
LouHodo
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#13 - 2017-02-04 18:49:46 UTC
Nullsec is safe, High Sec is safe....

It is all safe....

IF you know how to pay attention to your surroundings, and dont be a easy target.

I sometimes drift out to Null Sec, and outside of a few hot spots in null sec, it is relatively quite.... but remember if you dont know them, they ARE going to kill you, so either kill them first or avoid them.

In High Sec, it is the same thing. Dont be an easy victim and they wont bother you when someone else is easier to kill.
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2017-02-04 19:17:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Someone with that name should know better than to be a pathetic troll.

However, as usual - if you think this is true, jump in a ship and autopilot from highsec to nullsec. I'm sure you'll be fine once you hit null.



Wait are you trying to say hs is safer? Lol what game are you playing intel channels and bubbles let me afk rat in vni all damn day with 0 real threat

When you know who is hostile and have 0 penalty for shooting first life is a lot safer

Well then you should have no problem with the challenge.

Autopilot into catch, or into Syndicate from Orvolle (both provide direct access from highsec to nullsec which is the claim of this thread). If HS is more dangerous, then you should be perfectly safe once you're in null.

You either believe what you are saying and will do it, or you're full of ****.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Already Replaced.
#15 - 2017-02-04 19:43:14 UTC
Torin Corax wrote:
For the most part, the more dangerous an area is perceived to be, the more careful people are likely to be in that area. Subsequently (with some exceptions) those that live in Null are safer because they are less complacent about their safety.

Far too many High sec dwellers simply refuse to take the most basic of precautions, subsequently they make pathetically easy targets for those that know how to play the game.

If you take a reasonable degree of personal responsibility for your own safety in high sec, you are damn near untouchable.


Well said, even if the op is pure troll bait.

Must of us know it is a stupid idea, the place with no law enforcement (where the only safety comes from the actions of actual flesh and blood people working together) somehow being 'safer' than the place where magical space police fall out of the sky if someone spits at you. High Sec partisans cling to the idea, because that lie is the only thing that justifies their beliefs in their own heads.
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Already Replaced.
#16 - 2017-02-04 19:45:49 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Someone with that name should know better than to be a pathetic troll.

However, as usual - if you think this is true, jump in a ship and autopilot from highsec to nullsec. I'm sure you'll be fine once you hit null.



Wait are you trying to say hs is safer? Lol what game are you playing intel channels and bubbles let me afk rat in vni all damn day with 0 real threat

When you know who is hostile and have 0 penalty for shooting first life is a lot safer


Case in point./ Above I highlighted the words that indicate activities undertaken by PEOPLE... as opposed to high sec where people need do nothing beyond fitting correctly to be safe.
Sweet Adamas
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2017-02-06 03:20:42 UTC
deep nullsec is really only safe because its empty. Highsec to nullsec is Deadly
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2017-02-06 04:09:36 UTC
Real men play highsec at -10, nothing less safe than that.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy

Elmund Egivand
Sebestacny Circle
#19 - 2017-02-06 04:13:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Someone with that name should know better than to be a pathetic troll.

However, as usual - if you think this is true, jump in a ship and autopilot from highsec to nullsec. I'm sure you'll be fine once you hit null.


Is it ever safe to autopilot anywhere at all? If you rely on autopilot, and I do not mean just for charting routes, you are begging for a ship loss.

Quite a large chunk of nullsec, as it turns out, is barely inhabited. In fact, there's also a large chunk of lowsec that is barely inhabited. However, the barely inhabited parts of sov-nullsec could turn out to be safer to AFK in solely because whoever else is actually in system with you might very well be a blue, or even more likely, a corp/alliance member, with barely any traffic going through.

So do yourself a favour, find these pockets of nullsec and gank the hell out of the inhabitants.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
#20 - 2017-02-06 07:49:59 UTC
Everywhere is safe, if you don't log in

~ ~~ Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox. ~~ ~

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