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What I love about EVE

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Haylee Saturnia
Doomheim
#1 - 2017-01-25 17:14:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Haylee Saturnia
I'm not sure this is the right place to post this (maybe it should have gone under My EVE) but I just thought I should tell everyone about me and my EVE experience so far.

In EVE my name is Haylee Saturnia. I am Amarr. I'm an Alpha clone right now. I was first born two weeks ago. What I love about EVE (so far) in no particular order.

I love my new Corp: EvE College. They took me in, they teach me things and make me laugh on our TS channel.

Amarr ships are gorgeous! They are gold and shiny and even though I don't have the best computer in the universe, they look stunning on my 5k display.

I like all the character customization. it took me an hour and a half to decide what I wanted to look like and making it just perfect. I loved that we got to pose for pictures and chose from so many backgrounds and all the tattoos are amazing. I also love that you have the ability to change your character in stations.

I love all of the details in the universe. I don't mind going back and forth to get the best prices on ship parts just so I can see how amazing New Eden looks.

The interface is very flexible. You can use shortcuts, the pie menu, the box above your overview, (does it have a name?) or right clicking to do what you want to do. I use a combination of right clicking when in stations and the box above my overview when navigating. You can tie guns together and switch controls on the fly. I tie my guns to F1, armor repair to F2 and afterburner to F3.

You have choices. If you aren't good at one thing, you can do other things.

Last but not least. I am disabled with Cerebral Palsy and my hand-eye coordination and reaction time is semi-severely impaired. I'm not great in combat, I died 50 times or thereabouts in the tutorial alone. You can hear a stream of F bombs when I die and lose my modules, however, I have not once rage quit and declared EVE an unaccessible game for people with disabilities. (I have a list going which I am hoping to put up in the future) When I first looked at EVE I thought, "This game looks awesome, but not accessible." I don't have money for accessible game controllers that cost $500 dollars just because they know people need them, they think they can overcharge for them. I understand that modifdications cost money but the markup on them is outrageous. Anyway, I use a wireless Mac keyboard (yes, the very little one) and a first gen Apple mouse. (not the one where you can do gestures on it) and though I am very good at dying, I can kill NPC's. I do not do PVP. I have accepted the fact that able-bodied people with better reflexes will prevail so I save myself the frustration and shame because I am not like the rest of the world.

My current goal in EVE is to make 12 PLEX so I can get a pilot's license for the year because when you are married and live on SSI, you cannot be throwing real money into gaming. It cannot be done. I have done the math. I know it's a seemingly unattainable goal but I am already very dedicated to the game and my corp and someday I will do it. In telling you this I am NOT begging for ISK or PLEX, I am just letting you know what I'm aiming for.

Thanks for reading. If you are a disabled player, I'd love to hear how you navigate New Eden.

O7 to everyone!
Keno Skir
#2 - 2017-01-25 17:28:19 UTC
1. You too can PvP even with slower reactions, i would be happy to assist and provide ships.

2. The box above the overview is called the "selected item" box, and contains generic commands (warp to, orbit, keep at range etc) for whatever you happen to click on in game. Right clicking the buttons in this box (orbit, keep at range etc) will allow you to set custom defaults. For instance if you know your ship fights best at 1.5km orbit, set your default orbit to 1200-1300m or so, then it's 1 click to get into that envelope every time (it remembers from ship to ship so you can have different defaults for different fits / ships. Getting a good custom overview will also help reduce number of clicks a lot (ask me for mine if you would like one).

3. Out of interest can you link me one of the accessibility controllers you spoke of?

4. Since i am in a particularly good mood today, contact me by EvE-Mail and i will help you with self sufficient account plexing Pirate

Fly dangerous dude o/
Jennifer Starblaze
Fury Transport
#3 - 2017-01-25 17:43:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jennifer Starblaze
I just wanna expand a bit ont point 1 Keno is making.

While something like PvP in small ships like frigs (especially in 1 v x situations) will most likely not be viable for someone in your situation as those things can die pretty fast if you don´t react fast enough, there are forms which do not require the fastest reactions.

While not everyone is a big fan of certain pvp styles that involve gate and station camping, it is a form of PvP even you should be able to participate in, if you take a larger / tankier ship. There are quite a few ships like battleships which don´t require you to have a crazy fast reaction time to be usefull in a small gang.

Larger fights might be a bit more difficult again, as you will at least have to be fast with broadcasting for reps if you want to give your logi wing a good chance to apply reps to you when you are being primaried. But still it is not completly out of the picture since you will not always be targeted right from the start, or might not even get targeted at all in several fights in a row. And if you need a bit longer to activate some modules and target stuff, so be it.... just never ever come up with the idea to shoot secondary targets because you can not activate mods on the primary target too fast, this will make FCs very unhappy as it gives the other side a good warning about who will be the next primary (if they do not have spies anyway).

Still I totally agree that while some forms of PvP are not viable for someone in your situation there are still ways to take part in other forms of PvP combat that should be viable to you later on. Of course flying those ships effeciently will take a lot more training time than flying small ships, but on the long run PvP is not completly out of the picture even for people like you.
mkint
#4 - 2017-01-25 18:10:42 UTC
Jennifer Starblaze wrote:

Larger fights might be a bit more difficult again, as you will at least have to be fast with broadcasting for reps if you want to give your logi wing a good chance to apply reps to you when you are being primaried. But still it is not completly out of the picture since you will not always be targeted right from the start, or might not even get targeted at all in several fights in a row. And if you need a bit longer to activate some modules and target stuff, so be it.... just never ever come up with the idea to shoot secondary targets because you can not activate mods on the primary target too fast, this will make FCs very unhappy as it gives the other side a good warning about who will be the next primary (if they do not have spies anyway).

In all these cases, the fleet window is your friend. You can lock targets directly from the primary broadcast, and from broadcast history. You can assign your own broadcasts to keyboard shortcuts. As I understand it, there are different levels of severity of cerebral palsy, different people have different physical limits. OP: It might be worth trying out some fleet PVE, see if the fleet interface works for you. If you have an FC who can broadcast targets well, and a couple T1 logis who can cover your back, (even testing it out in a cruiser should be a sufficient test) maybe fleet stuff will be a distinct possibility. If you feel like you can keep up in lvl 4 mission fleets, (they aren't especially lucrative on their own), maybe incursion fleets would be a viable play style for you.
I think (at least in lowsec) gatecamps might be more challenging because the mechanics encourage a competition between reaction times. The mechanics pretty much require a frig fit for agility to compete against the reaction times of the campers.

EVE is a game, so priority is obviously a fun/rewarding experience. But I wouldn't quite count out combat related stuff just yet, not until you've explored the limits of what you can do.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Jennifer Starblaze
Fury Transport
#5 - 2017-01-25 18:22:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Jennifer Starblaze
mkint wrote:

I think (at least in lowsec) gatecamps might be more challenging because the mechanics encourage a competition between reaction times. The mechanics pretty much require a frig fit for agility to compete against the reaction times of the campers.


If you are on the camping side there are many ships that dont require you to have fast reactions, even in low sec. Let´s say you fly something like a armageddon (because I love geddons) you will need a dedicated tackler alongside with you anyway to catch smaller stuff, and it really does not matter too much if you need a little bit longer to initiate lock and activate modules with a ship like that. (The only time where it might be a real disadvantage is when you have to GTFO when a larger force is trying to break the camp).

I lived in low sec for years and have been flying with corps like BYDI, INFOD and many other pirate corps and never had an issue to get lot´s of fun in my slow locking battleships, thus I don´t see why it should not be an option for the op. (Not that I want to force someone into any direction, just saying that things like that are not out of the picture).
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#6 - 2017-01-25 18:40:43 UTC
You can still do things like trading if you want to get rich.

Or just make a scam contract and post few times a day, maybe somebody will mistake 1 B for 1 M and buy this fitted Punisher in Amarr.
Haylee Saturnia
Doomheim
#7 - 2017-01-26 00:49:59 UTC
Hi Keno,

Here is the link you were curious about. http://www.broadenedhorizons.com/products/accessible-game-controls Have fun feeling your eyes pop out of your head as you look at the prices.

We will definitely be in touch!

Thanks! O7

Keno Skir wrote:
1. You too can PvP even with slower reactions, i would be happy to assist and provide ships.

2. The box above the overview is called the "selected item" box, and contains generic commands (warp to, orbit, keep at range etc) for whatever you happen to click on in game. Right clicking the buttons in this box (orbit, keep at range etc) will allow you to set custom defaults. For instance if you know your ship fights best at 1.5km orbit, set your default orbit to 1200-1300m or so, then it's 1 click to get into that envelope every time (it remembers from ship to ship so you can have different defaults for different fits / ships. Getting a good custom overview will also help reduce number of clicks a lot (ask me for mine if you would like one).

3. Out of interest can you link me one of the accessibility controllers you spoke of?

4. Since i am in a particularly good mood today, contact me by EvE-Mail and i will help you with self sufficient account plexing Pirate

Fly dangerous dude o/
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#8 - 2017-01-26 02:37:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Ptraci
You are going to die. Often. We all do.

Even when you don't expect to die - like undocking from a trade hub in high sec. Or running around feeling invincible in your brand new shiny ship. You will die to mis-clicks. You'll die to lag. You'll die to griefers. You'll die to failing to understand something fundamental about EVE game mechanics.

Then there's all the times you'll die when you expect to die - when you lose a fight. The fights you know you will lose. The fights you didn't expect to lose. The fights there is NO WAY you should have lost...

But once in a while - you'll survive. And THAT will make it all worth it. So don't take the game personally. And never fly what you can't afford to lose.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2017-01-26 03:35:45 UTC
Jennifer Starblaze wrote:
I just wanna expand a bit ont point 1 Keno is making.

While something like PvP in small ships like frigs (especially in 1 v x situations) will most likely not be viable for someone in your situation as those things can die pretty fast if you don´t react fast enough, there are forms which do not require the fastest reactions.

While not everyone is a big fan of certain pvp styles that involve gate and station camping, it is a form of PvP even you should be able to participate in, if you take a larger / tankier ship. There are quite a few ships like battleships which don´t require you to have a crazy fast reaction time to be usefull in a small gang.

Larger fights might be a bit more difficult again, as you will at least have to be fast with broadcasting for reps if you want to give your logi wing a good chance to apply reps to you when you are being primaried. But still it is not completly out of the picture since you will not always be targeted right from the start, or might not even get targeted at all in several fights in a row. And if you need a bit longer to activate some modules and target stuff, so be it.... just never ever come up with the idea to shoot secondary targets because you can not activate mods on the primary target too fast, this will make FCs very unhappy as it gives the other side a good warning about who will be the next primary (if they do not have spies anyway).

Still I totally agree that while some forms of PvP are not viable for someone in your situation there are still ways to take part in other forms of PvP combat that should be viable to you later on. Of course flying those ships effeciently will take a lot more training time than flying small ships, but on the long run PvP is not completly out of the picture even for people like you.


I agree. Frig combat demands alot of attention and reaction time due to how fragile those ships are even in frig vs frig combat. Battlecruisers are probably much better for slower-reaction combat due to how tanky those can be without eating funds like a mining fleet in an asteroid belt.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#10 - 2017-01-26 06:42:06 UTC
Welcome aboard. Glad you're enjoying EvE, OP.