EVE General Discussion

You'd never be able to own your own station, making your operations in nullsec merely about shitting up other peoples' space rather than trying to hold space of your own. If you so much as dropped an egg anywhere in arms reach of a major alliance they'd swing by and obliterate it just to make your life harder.

If a station were destructible, alliances would also respond much more severely to attacks on them. Right now a smaller alliance might take a station from a large one, but that's mostly because the large one simply doesn't care enough to defend it properly. By the admission of people supporting destructible stations, the major power blocs sometimes just leave an area and come back when it's convenient. That would no longer be the case if the station were destructible, an attack on the station would be treated the same way as an attack on a CSAA POS or something. (well, how normal people respond to an attack on a major asset, as opposed to how White Noise ... doesn't!)

The underlying problem isn't your inability to destroy a station. You're smaller. You have fewer pilots and fewer resources. You don't want to inflict damage on major alliances, you want to inflict damage in a manner that avoids reprisal.

Food for thought:

People will defend CSAA's with much ferocity.. (unless White Noise.) and they only cost 2b, plus the super thats cooking inside of that; this is a perfect example for an 'alarm clock' strat op, whereas people will wake their sorry asses up to come defend someone's future Super.

Outposts cost more to build then Supers. Have multiple reinforced timers, and are generally No where close as quick to flip over as a Large Tower and Mods will explode. (CSAA can get vollied by a few battleships).

Conquering outposts takes time, multiple Ops, and the always fun bridging or the gawdawful '600 men through a star gate traffic control circle jerk'. ::Tinfoil:: All the assets in the station would likely be destroyed, all the ships, ammo, and everything else gone. No more firesales, no more free killmails from reds undocking from a station that isnt theirs anymore. It would completely re-shape the null-sec community.

So all the budding tiny alliances out there that can't currently conquer them, won't fare any better if they are destroyable.

Wanna know what happens to 200 people that form up to defend against the power bloc? Ask White Noise.

So...

If someone was inside an outpost while it was destroyed, and if they had a monocle.... would the monocle survive?

I am hoping this is true. I am also hoping that CCP implement this idea (as it is outlined here). I am then hoping they fail code the implementation so that Jita 4.4 is shoot-able.

Why fix it if it ain't broken?

Sure, sounds good. We can have 90 sentry guns now too right?

BUT this is EvE you should not be safe no where but docked in stati...... O WAIT! you like having a station to hide inside of!



i see why all the nulles hate this idea, they don't want to have to rebuild stations ever other week as it would cut in to there big piles of isks.

If it can be built, it can be destroyed. I like my EVE to be as immersive as possible. Remember, guys, it's not just a game, it's the ultimate sci-fi simulator!

Xolve, consider this.

For a good part of EVE's history some of the most dynamic alliances had little or no interest in holding SOV or owning stations. Instead they would strike, destroy, and move on.

Destructible outposts would help revitalize this. If implemented, smaller alliances may be able to catch a larger alliance away from home, involved in a larger fight elsewhere. When they attack the station the larger alliance must decide whether to go back and defend it, let it fall, or try to fight on both fronts.

As it stands now they would simply ignore it, knowing they can go back later and retake that station.

Smaller alliances have difficulty holding stations they have taken from larger alliances, but it is very difficult for a larger alliance to seek retribution when the smaller group has nothing for the larger group to focus on and attack.

This suits the play style of a merc group perfectly... and that's a very good thing.

It would also make larger groups think twice before putting huge amounts of infrastructure all over the place, along with the in station materials to support them. They would tend to focus their efforts on the systems they felt most confident about being able to hold, again, creating gaps in SOV.

There isn't much of a downside except to well entrenched power blocks, and even they can use it to their advantage if they are smart. I think we'll see this implemented soonish.

With any luck this will happen when POS's are redone, and hopefully their capabilities will be expanded (perhaps make them a viable pick up point for a contract) to allow them to fill the gap (in a limited yet logical way) in systems with no station. POS's that could serve as a crude trading post or equipment depo/pick up point would help.

I'm all for stations being destroyed. Theres more than one reason to invade an alliances space, I think it would be great to reward the efforts of a smaller alliance by presenting them the oppertunity of destroying an outpost they have taken. This would be a heavy blow to any alliance. Having said that I don't think this will ever happen. Another idea I like that would reward an alliance that has taken an outpost, this would be to over time release the contents of the hangers corp and player owned at the station. The longer you hold it the more you loot. This would be through an option where you don't claim ownership of the outpost but occupy it and when you leave, it reverts back to it's previous owners control.