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Courier contracts are a joke

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2017-01-21 06:05:19 UTC
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
As mentioned above, join the Haulers Channel, if affordable only take couriers from there. Scams are not allowed there and people announcing tiny rewards or otherwise "funny" contracts are quickly talked out of it by the community. Though the good deals come with collaterals in the 2-5B range and require a DST at lvl4 minimum. On the lower end there is too much competition of newbies, crashing the prices.


I did join that channel ;p and it's pretty sweet.

I was thinking someone in CSM could put forward an idea to enforce a minimum reward that scales correctly with collateral, but with this channel of non-scam jobs, it's not such a huge deal.

Not sure if this was clear, but the Haulers Channel is operated by players. CCP has nothing to do with it, they are not govern New Eden. EvE is a sandbox where CCP only defines the laws of physics and give us tools but players decide how to use it and need to define and enforce their own cultural laws, rules if they want.

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Random Assassin
Doomheim
#22 - 2017-01-21 08:15:13 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
As mentioned above, join the Haulers Channel, if affordable only take couriers from there. Scams are not allowed there and people announcing tiny rewards or otherwise "funny" contracts are quickly talked out of it by the community. Though the good deals come with collaterals in the 2-5B range and require a DST at lvl4 minimum. On the lower end there is too much competition of newbies, crashing the prices.


I did join that channel ;p and it's pretty sweet.

I was thinking someone in CSM could put forward an idea to enforce a minimum reward that scales correctly with collateral, but with this channel of non-scam jobs, it's not such a huge deal.

Not sure if this was clear, but the Haulers Channel is operated by players. CCP has nothing to do with it, they are not govern New Eden. EvE is a sandbox where CCP only defines the laws of physics and give us tools but players decide how to use it and need to define and enforce their own cultural laws, rules if they want.


The haulers channel is great intel for gankers and they have this really obnoxious anti gank attitude and terrible BO :P
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2017-01-21 08:48:42 UTC
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Meryl SinGarda, what would you like to see happen with courier contracts then?

They're entirely player generated.

I don't see forcing a minimum price for them as a viable option (After all, maybe you're doing a favour for a friend)


That was actually my suggestion but I see how that could minimize the nature of the sandbox. The fact that players have organized something to get around this issue kind of fixes the problem (I hadn't even previously known there was a channel of haulers)


What? Via an in-game community started by players who established and enforce norms and rules...the problem is totally fixed. Now you can get good contracts with reduced risk of a scam....and this is a "kind of fixes the problem"? Keep in mind that this solution is entirely player driven and voluntary. It is the kind of solution people like Elinor Ostrom describes in her research on common pool resources (fisheries, grazing land, water management, etc.). This is an example of emergence, EVE at it's best...and we get this kind of a lackluster response.

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Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2017-01-21 13:07:40 UTC
I generally pay more for the occasional public courier contract in highsec - mainly because I want to get it done quickly. And if I offer decent pay, the contract will get ripped out of my hands. Good luck seeing those in the contract list.

If I don't care when the contract gets taken and fulfilled, I'll offer peanuts, and some poor bloke will take it eventually.
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