Intergalactic Summit

The idea that someone's job can determine their loyalty to an organisation seldom makes any sense outside the Caldari State, of course, where who you work for IS your nationality. A job is a job, and most people take a job because they need to work in order to pay the bills. Which job they take is usually determined by their qualifications and skill-set. Who they take it with is very dependent on the individuals priorities - and it is here that you can see actual value systems at work, if you drill down.

There are plenty of Militia pilots who signed on for a tour because they wanted to serve their country and they didn't want to do it running missions from agents - that bizzare industry of murderous responses to inflated threats and strange conspiracy theories.

As we age, most capsuleers acquire a hard-bitten cynicism about causes, however, and many of the older militia pilots no longer serve their original nations - plying their skillset in the most advantageous way to themselves. Those people can't be said to be inherently more loyal than even even the most savage nullseccer. Capsuleers being capsuleers, of course, many militia pilots come to this mercenary phase by skipping over the intiial loyalist phase - never once serving out of patriotism.

Some corporations in nullsec maintain their ties to one of the nations. Planting a loyalist flag in space that was never owned by that nation is a good way of demonstrating loyalty to that nation, and certain organisations of this type have even been officially recognised by the nation in question. Other pilots in nullsec live and work in that region on 'deployments' and return to the cultural bosom of their nation between those deployments - returning to family and friends, making contributions to charities and maintaining their cultural ties and identities. Not quite Loyalists, anymore, but identifiably still belonging to their nations. I'd argue that those pilots should still be counted with the Loyalists as being 'Caldari', 'Amarrian', 'Matari' or 'Gallente'.

Then there are those who have been out there long enough that those cultural ties have atrophied to the point where they are little more than habits. Those who form new nations beyond the fringe of the settled nations. Those who spurn the whole concept of nations - warbands, crews and staff.

Personally I've always viewed such groups as being inferior to Nation states. They are as ephemeral as the ancient bands - forming around leaders or causes, persisting for a time and then breaking up and moving on to new leaders and new causes. Some of these pilots are true believers and will passionately argue that a few routines, memes and in-jokes are the equal to millennia of cultural development. Some are simply in it for the ability to sate their appetites for treasure, blood and the ability to carve out some territory where they can make the rules.

Generally speaking, though, anyone can be a Loyalist - all you have to do is to be Loyal. That doesn't mean you have to wear a uniform as much as it means identifying yourself as a member of a nation and putting the needs of that nation before your own needs, from time to time. Very few nations demand that you take vows of celibacy and poverty. Most demand that you contribute - so find a way to contribute and hold your head up high.

And the void to anyone who tells you that you're 'No true X'.

To the void with you!

Moved out to null a couple of times. I don't think that I am a traitor, or a deserter(as Kim suggested), it was a learning experience and nothing more then that. I had some fun out there, shot down a couple of carriers, and enjoyed a couple of months learning how to avoid drag bubbles.

One doesn't have to be a Crusader to be Amarr.

Um...no.

At lest not yet?

I don't have any particular treachery on my item-action list at the moment.

I mistrust anyone who claims to speak on behalf of 'all capsuleers'.

You're not going to stop it that way.

I recovered an ancient relic from old times, called human rights declaration. It states all freedoms an rights of our race. Amarr society is breaking those rights. The only way I allow slavery is if slaves actually want to be slaves.

Minmatar Republic is against angel cartel as well... it's only a matter of time to cleanse our space from those slavers too ... and as you are from Caldary State, you should know better about hypocrisy.

Bullin you say ... dont make me laugh.

If ancestors have buried it so long ago, it's was for a reason. It is quite unwise to follow their mistakes, and better put it back where you found that and leave it buried in the dirt where it does belong.


Then go back to your Republic and don't say a word about slavery in other places until there's at least one Angel running around on freedom somewhere.


Yes, bullying. Just as you despise slavery, we despise depravity and running around naked in public, showing as much skin as people in the Republic do. Imagine us declaring war on Republic and invading, killing underdressed people, catching other and forcibly putting clothes on them. That's the same what Republic does to Amarr Empire with slavery.

While you are fighting for the freedom and liberty, don't forget to check whose assets you are defending in those plexes, broaden your perspective so to say.