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Why do EVE players love gankers so much?

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scramblekid
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-12-26 17:29:50 UTC
Hello people of EVE

Now, this is not a tear laden post, more one born out of curiosity, and inspired by This Post

Why do people hold these gankers in such high regard? The way I look at it is that every character over 3 months old in eve likes the game, and in most cases spends quite a bit of time dedicated to it. So what joy can be gotten out of killing a miner hard at work, who helps provide the building blocks for the rest of the eve community.

IRL, I love my job as a software engineer. I know that I would not have my job if the company I work for did not exist, but this does not fill me with an urge to come into the office armed with a shotgun and shoot all of the lesser skilled people who use the systems I create.

So whilst I am not sure what responses I will get, I wanted to put the question out there, so lets see what you all come up with :)
Pinkfluff
Lone Wolf Supply Co.
#2 - 2011-12-26 18:17:33 UTC
I think it's because no one would get away with shooting up the people they hate irl, so they shoot up people in EVE.
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#3 - 2011-12-26 18:19:23 UTC
It's just funny. I suicide gank in BF3 too. There it's done with an "allah akbar jeep." Needless to say it's a jeep loaded with C4 that you crash into any enemy unit you can. I guess it comes down to the hilarity of things not going as others expect them too. Randomness and a fair bit of anarchy are fun, regardless of the game being played.

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#4 - 2011-12-26 19:29:00 UTC
Try it. Suicide gank some random miner in a hulk. The mails and/or local chatter you will get in response will make it pretty clear exactly why that person deserved to have his boat violenced.
Ivan Joukov
Soviet System
#5 - 2011-12-26 19:53:08 UTC
Because they recall to everybody that there is no true safe points in Eve and that's the game's best trait.

 Davai!

Marduk Nibiru
Chaos Delivery Systems
#6 - 2011-12-26 20:35:16 UTC
scramblekid wrote:

IRL, I love my job as a software engineer. I know that I would not have my job if the company I work for did not exist, but this does not fill me with an urge to come into the office armed with a shotgun and shoot all of the lesser skilled people ...


You must be one of those that give me the urge to come into the office armed with a shotgun then. Only the unskilled software engineer could accept the unskilleds' right to continue existing. Nothing in the world is worse than the **** they call "programming". Employers that hire them should be fined for torturing their employees.
Marduk Nibiru
Chaos Delivery Systems
#7 - 2011-12-26 20:40:05 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Try it. Suicide gank some random miner in a hulk. The mails and/or local chatter you will get in response will make it pretty clear exactly why that person deserved to have his boat violenced.


Even more fun, pop some random inty that has nothing in their hull. The total surprise and personal butt-hurt they express is pretty damn funny.
Marduk Nibiru
Chaos Delivery Systems
#8 - 2011-12-26 20:44:12 UTC
Pinkfluff wrote:
I think it's because no one would get away with shooting up the people they hate irl, so they shoot up people in EVE.


Well, I'm fairly sure I could stand a chance at getting away with it. Killing real people though vs. killing space pixels has like 500,000 parsecs of moral distance. People that consider them at all the same are a little scary.
Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
#9 - 2011-12-26 20:55:06 UTC
scramblekid wrote:

Why do people hold these gankers in such high regard?


There's probably a lot of reasons. I personally support them because I strongly object to a system of only consensual PvP in Sandbox MMOs and currently in EVE suicide ganking is the pretty much the only means of PvP in High Sec that doesn't rely on the target giving consent or being completely ignorant of game mechanics. The gankers are the last line of defense from turning High Sec and potentially the whole game into space WoW.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-12-26 20:56:43 UTC
GenesisMike
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-12-26 21:12:55 UTC


You call him a hero, I would rather say hes good at pew pewing helpless people. Different aspects of the game but calling him a hero is like saying the pro football player who runs over a pop warner player is epic. Not even close to a real PvP engagement. Hes good at screwing around in high sec with easy targets. On the flip side look at people who fight outnumbered and use some pvp mechanics/skill to win, now id say thats a good player.
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#12 - 2011-12-26 21:42:52 UTC


LOL, he is my hero. I'll be sending him a donation shortly as a thanks for his efforts.

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]

Princess Bride
SharkNado
#13 - 2011-12-27 02:13:35 UTC
I think many players have no respect for miners. At the same time, it seems like CCP goes out of their way to try to protect them. So when CCP changes something that makes it harder to attack miners in high sec, it becomes funny to kill them despite CCP's efforts. It becomes an us against CCP game of cat and mouse where CCP tries to defend their defenseless mice, and the cats just find a way to kill them anyway.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/

Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#14 - 2011-12-27 02:42:09 UTC
Think of it this way. Personally, I see this as a means of dealing with the competition. If you want to claim a belt all to yourself but don't want those pesky miners coming in stealing your ore, gank them. If you are wanting to manipulate the local market for your own personal gain (and no gain to anyone else), gank the miners.

I have different standards in terms of dealing with bot users, but others would argue that suicide ganking miners is an effective means of dealing with the bot problem. Some even gank for profit if the target is fitted with expensive mods.

Adapt or Die

Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#15 - 2011-12-27 05:09:11 UTC
come to the dark side. you know you want to. muhahahahaha
whaynethepain
#16 - 2011-12-27 10:35:25 UTC
That's quite a strange question there.

Are you saying watching a top boxer beat on a lesser opponent is un-cool?

Watching someone scratch their name on a wall just irritates me.

Dunno I had a point when I started but, I can't remember what it was exactly, c'ept your making less sense than me.

Merry X-mass and a happy new year.

Getting you on your feet.

So you've further to fall.

scramblekid
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-12-27 11:56:15 UTC
Marduk Nibiru wrote:
scramblekid wrote:

IRL, I love my job as a software engineer. I know that I would not have my job if the company I work for did not exist, but this does not fill me with an urge to come into the office armed with a shotgun and shoot all of the lesser skilled people ...


You must be one of those that give me the urge to come into the office armed with a shotgun then. Only the unskilled software engineer could accept the unskilleds' right to continue existing. Nothing in the world is worse than the **** they call "programming". Employers that hire them should be fined for torturing their employees.



Upon reading my post again with a sober set of eyes, I must admit that my choice of words for describing my underlings may have been a bit harsh. But hey, Looks like I got my first forum tears, and I was not even trying to get any :)
scramblekid
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-12-27 11:58:24 UTC
whaynethepain wrote:
That's quite a strange question there.

Are you saying watching a top boxer beat on a lesser opponent is un-cool?

Watching someone scratch their name on a wall just irritates me.

Dunno I had a point when I started but, I can't remember what it was exactly, c'ept your making less sense than me.

Merry X-mass and a happy new year.



Sorry, I was a bit drunk :) Although I make little sense at the best of times.

Happy new year to you to!
scramblekid
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-12-27 12:01:38 UTC
Xorv wrote:

There's probably a lot of reasons. I personally support them because I strongly object to a system of only consensual PvP in Sandbox MMOs and currently in EVE suicide ganking is the pretty much the only means of PvP in High Sec that doesn't rely on the target giving consent or being completely ignorant of game mechanics. The gankers are the last line of defense from turning High Sec and potentially the whole game into space WoW.


Princess Bride wrote:

I think many players have no respect for miners. At the same time, it seems like CCP goes out of their way to try to protect them. So when CCP changes something that makes it harder to attack miners in high sec, it becomes funny to kill them despite CCP's efforts. It becomes an us against CCP game of cat and mouse where CCP tries to defend their defenseless mice, and the cats just find a way to kill them anyway.


I think through these two responses my question has been answered, thanks for all the posts!
Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-12-27 12:23:00 UTC
Did the OP actually call mining "work?"

I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.

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