EVE General Discussion

Bad Scipio.

At least I now understand why the apple has caused so much trouble throughout history. Such a simple fruit.

Nope. You are wrong. Creating a number of Alpha clones is possible for ganking, but as has been pointed out why bother? Set up one Alpha account, set up the skills for ganking, let it train. When ready, sub it and start using it. When it is "fully trained" use it as an SP farm or part of an SP farm. Gank. Get some loot, ISK from SP and use it buy a PLEX for said gank alt. There. Free gank alt that is generating ISK, maybe even more than sufficient ISK for a PLEX, and no need to ditch the character for sec status as people have adapted to that issue.

The idea of setting up Alpha clone after Alpha clone ignores the notion of opportunity costs. All the time I spend setting up such characters I could be ganking or letting my Omega gank alt earn some SP. Or even doing something else entirely.

And there is exactly zero evidence for your position. None. Zilch. Nada. Zero. The empty set. All there is is your hypothesis. You cannot point to a single example of this happening.

So yes, you are correct. It is possible. But nobody seems inclined to do it, and there appears to be no evidence that anyone actually has done it.

Thank you.

The rest of of your post applies conditionals that I have never argued, or stated, and which I am not required to defend as if I had.

Yes, just like the dingbat trying to spawn a billion units of tritanium via rookie ships. I imagine even the most dedicated person would quit after about the 100th rookie ship. And I bet in that amount of time you could get an order of magnitude more ISK in one rookie ship than via spawning it by new rookie ships.

Can we all agree that Salvos found a non-problem?

You tried to make a problem out of nothing, by implying things I have never argued or stated.

After several pages of futile efforts to contrive me to have said things I have not, you ended up acknowledging, twice, that I am and was correct.

I have noted that you have found a non-problem. That is it. Your rather dishonest quoting aside....

Yep, there he noted the rather large opportunity costs. Logging in, setting up skills, etc. Not to mention simply creating the accounts themselves. But nope, that all gets tossed out and not is so real that apparently we don't even need actual empirical evidence of it because Salvos says so.

A giant load of tripe.

None of it got tossed out anywhere.

The fact that I specifically acknowledged and stated those opportunity costs, shows that I had already considered and included them in my position well before you ever brought those up much later.

Instead you spent 2-3 pages wasting everyones time on whether it was a theoretical possibility, or a real possibility, as made possible by the changes to EVEs systems.

Where?

"Appear" is not exactly a convincing argument.
You are again forging false implications.

The opportunity cost is now less than ever before.
Before you could only run 15 day trials in which to accrue SP and act.
Now Alphas are persistent SP incubators.



Whether the reasons for doing so are good or not, is not something I have argued, either way.
I did, however, point out they can be used for avoiding the CCP restriction on recycling characters for purposes of avoiding sec status repercussions.

As to evidence of this happening, are you trying to claim that Alpha alts have not been created for the purpose of HS suicide ganking?