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When NPCs become detrimental to PVP

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Lena Crews
Corporate Navy Police Force
Sleep Reapers
#281 - 2017-01-03 16:16:42 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
It makes sense that a player would lose standing for killing capsuleers in a corp.

Just as killing capsuleers in a player corp causes antagonism.

In this way NPC corps emulate player corps.



It does.

The problem is there is only one NPC corp for one bloodline where this has an impact (Deep Core Mining/Deteis I believe).

It's stupid to have a protection mechanism there for just one bloodline's NPC corp. "Oh... he's in DCM. I won't attack him because I don't want mining fleet's defense forces attacking me."

It has a really easy solution as well. DCM shouldn't have mining fleets so that no players get that protection. Just move those fleets to another NPC corp. Problem solved. Those attacking miners can still get bad enough standings to be attacked on sight... but those who've been ganking players for years don't all of a sudden become KOS to a specific group of NPC miners that didn't exist when they began ganking. And players don't get protection from ganking because their NPC corp has mining fleets.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#282 - 2017-01-03 16:20:07 UTC
Sorry, Salvos, you're done here. Your meaningless drivel is just more posturing, and I'm not going to go around in circles with you again and again and again while you project your ignorance, your denial, and your intellectual dishonesty onto everyone that challenges you or otherwise doesn't disagree with you. You really are just a clueless idiot who thinks he's special. Go find a safe space and take a nap.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Salvos Rhoska
#283 - 2017-01-03 16:28:48 UTC
Lena Crews wrote:


It does.

The problem is there is only one NPC corp for one bloodline where this has an impact (Deep Core Mining/Deteis I believe). s.


Its in the pipeline that this will be applied to many more NPC corps, as well as Pirate corps (possibly differently).

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Salvos Rhoska
#284 - 2017-01-03 16:30:03 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Sorry, Salvos, you're done here. Your meaningless drivel is just more posturing, and I'm not going to go around in circles with you again and again and again while you project your ignorance, your denial, and your intellectual dishonesty onto everyone that challenges you or otherwise doesn't disagree with you. You really are just a clueless idiot who thinks he's special. Go find a safe space and take a nap.


Seek psychiatric care and try to get a life.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#285 - 2017-01-03 16:35:01 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Sorry, Salvos, you're done here. Your meaningless drivel is just more posturing, and I'm not going to go around in circles with you again and again and again while you project your ignorance, your denial, and your intellectual dishonesty onto everyone that challenges you or otherwise doesn't disagree with you. You really are just a clueless idiot who thinks he's special. Go find a safe space and take a nap.


Seek psychiatric care and try to get a life.


It's cute how you think you could possibly have anything meaningful to offer me in the way of advice.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Salvos Rhoska
#286 - 2017-01-03 16:37:44 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Sorry, Salvos, you're done here. Your meaningless drivel is just more posturing, and I'm not going to go around in circles with you again and again and again while you project your ignorance, your denial, and your intellectual dishonesty onto everyone that challenges you or otherwise doesn't disagree with you. You really are just a clueless idiot who thinks he's special. Go find a safe space and take a nap.


Seek psychiatric care and try to get a life.


It's cute how you think you could possibly have anything meaningful to offer me in the way of advice.


Dunning-Kruger, yet again.

Ive worked as a nurse in psychiatric wards.
Your choice whether you take my advice or not.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#287 - 2017-01-03 16:50:21 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Sorry, Salvos, you're done here. Your meaningless drivel is just more posturing, and I'm not going to go around in circles with you again and again and again while you project your ignorance, your denial, and your intellectual dishonesty onto everyone that challenges you or otherwise doesn't disagree with you. You really are just a clueless idiot who thinks he's special. Go find a safe space and take a nap.


Seek psychiatric care and try to get a life.


It's cute how you think you could possibly have anything meaningful to offer me in the way of advice.


Dunning-Kruger, yet again.

Ive worked as a nurse in psychiatric wards.
Your choice whether you take my advice or not.


"I know you are you said you are so what am I" was also cute once, in fifth grade.

If you worked as anything in psychiatry, you'd know not to give unsolicited advice without the proper diagnostic analysis, and protect my rights to privacy by not making public diagnoses on public forums. But of course, you're a liar, and were no such thing. Just another armchair psychologist using "you're crazy" to dismiss those that challenge you because you have no other recourse. GG, nub.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Salvos Rhoska
#288 - 2017-01-03 16:57:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Sorry, Salvos, you're done here. Your meaningless drivel is just more posturing, and I'm not going to go around in circles with you again and again and again while you project your ignorance, your denial, and your intellectual dishonesty onto everyone that challenges you or otherwise doesn't disagree with you. You really are just a clueless idiot who thinks he's special. Go find a safe space and take a nap.


Seek psychiatric care and try to get a life.


It's cute how you think you could possibly have anything meaningful to offer me in the way of advice.


Dunning-Kruger, yet again.

Ive worked as a nurse in psychiatric wards.
Your choice whether you take my advice or not.


"I know you are you said you are so what am I" was also cute once, in fifth grade.

If you worked as anything in psychiatry, you'd know not to give unsolicited advice without the proper diagnostic analysis, and protect my rights to privacy by not making public diagnoses on public forums. But of course, you're a liar, and were no such thing. Just another armchair psychologist using "you're crazy" to dismiss those that challenge you because you have no other recourse. GG, nub.


"If you worked as anything in psychiatry, you'd know "
Are you claiming you have worked in psychiatric healthcare?

I didnt diagnose you. I just gave you advice.

Furthermore, you are not my patient, nor ever have been. I am under no legal or ethical obligation in regards to your care or rights.

And yes, I have worked on several psychiatric wards with patients of all ages and a wide spectrum of conditions.

I also studied a full year of psychology in my past in addition to my schooling as a nurse.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#289 - 2017-01-03 17:01:22 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Its in the pipeline that this will be applied to many more NPC corps, as well as Pirate corps (possibly differently).

Where is this coming from? Pirate corporations, yes; but where has CCP indicated any other Corps?
Salvos Rhoska
#290 - 2017-01-03 17:02:23 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Its in the pipeline that this will be applied to many more NPC corps, as well as Pirate corps (possibly differently).

Where is this coming from? Pirate corporations, yes; but where has CCP indicated any other Corps?


There is a post with a link about it buried somewhere in this thread.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#291 - 2017-01-03 17:03:58 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Its in the pipeline that this will be applied to many more NPC corps, as well as Pirate corps (possibly differently).

Where is this coming from? Pirate corporations, yes; but where has CCP indicated any other Corps?


There is a post with a link about it buried somewhere in this thread.

No there isn't.
Salvos Rhoska
#292 - 2017-01-03 17:05:52 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Its in the pipeline that this will be applied to many more NPC corps, as well as Pirate corps (possibly differently).

Where is this coming from? Pirate corporations, yes; but where has CCP indicated any other Corps?


There is a post with a link about it buried somewhere in this thread.

No there isn't.

Yes. there is.

I am looking at it right now.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#293 - 2017-01-03 17:07:30 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Its in the pipeline that this will be applied to many more NPC corps, as well as Pirate corps (possibly differently).

Where is this coming from? Pirate corporations, yes; but where has CCP indicated any other Corps?


There is a post with a link about it buried somewhere in this thread.

No there isn't.

Yes. there is.

I am looking at it right now.

Quote it and link it where it says anything about additional NPC Corps, aside from pirate Corps
Salvos Rhoska
#294 - 2017-01-03 17:10:00 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Quote it and link it where it says anything about additional NPC Corps, aside from pirate Corps


Im not going to do your homework for you. Look through the thread.
or
Send me 500mil and I will send you the post reference in this thread.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#295 - 2017-01-03 17:11:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Quote it and link it where it says anything about additional NPC Corps, aside from pirate Corps


Im not going to do your homework for you. Look through the thread.
or
Send me 500mil and I will send you the post reference in this thread.

I posted the original link back on page 6. It's been quoted a couple of times since. I know exactly what it says and you are wrong. There is no link in this thread discussing other NPC Corps aside from pirate Corps.

Even full of bullshit you can't just correct yourself and admit you are wrong.
Salvos Rhoska
#296 - 2017-01-03 17:13:47 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Quote it and link it where it says anything about additional NPC Corps, aside from pirate Corps


Im not going to do your homework for you. Look through the thread.
or
Send me 500mil and I will send you the post reference in this thread.

I posted the original link back on page 6. I know exactly what it says and you are wrong. There is no link in this thread discussing other NPC Corps aside from pirate Corps.

Even full of bullshit you can't just correct yourself and admit you are wrong.


You are wrong.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#297 - 2017-01-03 17:16:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Salvos Rhoska wrote:

You are wrong.

Yeah sure. This is just stupid. You can't link it, because it doesn't exist, otherwise instead of diverting and avoiding the evidence, you'd just provide it and correct me.

Instead, this approach allows you to make up any bullshit you want and claim wrongly that the evidence is earlier in the thread (or some other fanciful place).
Lena Crews
Corporate Navy Police Force
Sleep Reapers
#298 - 2017-01-03 17:18:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Lena Crews
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Lena Crews wrote:


It does.

The problem is there is only one NPC corp for one bloodline where this has an impact (Deep Core Mining/Deteis I believe). s.


Its in the pipeline that this will be applied to many more NPC corps, as well as Pirate corps (possibly differently).



I'm referring to that list.

It still only impacts one corporation that players can belong to... and they can only belong if they are one specific bloodline.

It's really simple to remove that corporation from the list with mining fleets. Problem solved.

**edit** or put all player NPC corps on the list. Doesn't really matter to me either way. Just doesn't make sense to give one bloodline an obvious advantage without giving the others the same (or some other advantage instead).
Salvos Rhoska
#299 - 2017-01-03 17:18:44 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:

You are wrong.

Yeah sure. This is just stupid. You can't link it, because it doesn't exist, otherwise instead of diverting and avoiding the evidence, you'd just provide it and correct me.


I'm looking at the linked EVE Dev post right now.

You are wrong.

Either do your own homework, or pay me to provide it for you.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#300 - 2017-01-03 17:20:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:

You are wrong.

Yeah sure. This is just stupid. You can't link it, because it doesn't exist, otherwise instead of diverting and avoiding the evidence, you'd just provide it and correct me.


I'm looking at the linked EVE Dev post right now.

You are wrong.

Either do your own homework, or pay me to provide it for you.
I have looked at all the links provided in this thread and you are full of bullshit right now.