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New player trying to take it all in

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HERPINDERPINHERP HERPINDERPIN
Truly Fine Corporation
#1 - 2016-12-26 00:27:19 UTC
New player, always loved this game but could never participate due to economic reasons. Finally able to start playing it and I'm not going to lie, everything is very overwhelming. I've decided to focus on one thing per year to keep sane. I figured for the basics I can start learning and skilling everything based on piloting and combat with the near goal of running level 3 /4 security missions by the end of January.

Ironically while I was in the army, I had a way easier time asking what acronyms flood the vernacular and getting an honest response than I do currently. Is there some sort of way to ask these questions that I'm not really getting? Some sort of jeopardy "in the form of a question" thing? To be honest I know huge communities like eve have micro cultures, customs and modus operandi that exist within their game and I want to learn it as soon as possible because trying to fight against more than a decade of standard operating procedure, customs and traditions is why I see so many of my friends join a game and through failed or resisted assimilation, leave the game claiming that it was dumb or stupid or any other vague unconvincing answer you can think of. How can I fit in? I know of many random players teaming up to do missions and stuff together but I don't know if it's how I pitch or if I'm pitching a grouping offer even in the right place or not. Sounds lame but I would love to be able to run over missions with other people that are sort of as new as me or just enjoy ratting and explaining how to fly and fly well

I guess I'm just asking for how can I fit in as soon as possible, where can I post to find people with similar goals and likes as me, and if my plan of taking in each piece of this enormous pie slowly and with about 2-3 months given to each aspect (mining, ratting, trading, manufacturing, etc.) is a good idea

Anywho, hope to see yall out in the black

Respectfully,
HERPINDERPINHERP HERPINDERPIN
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#2 - 2016-12-26 00:37:56 UTC
You want to ask those questions here really Smile.

Remove standings and insurance.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#3 - 2016-12-26 00:47:52 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Make a "pitch" to various players the way you make them to people in the real world.

If they like to blow up things, show that you like to do the same thing... by doing it.
Win or lose, you make a statement with your actions.

If they like mining, hang out in the same places and mine with them.
Or do something useful for them (hint: command ships).



Most importantly...

- realize that you are the low man on the social food chain. You have to work your way up by doing stuff, not saying stuff.

- you have no experience or knowledge. And knowledge you have from other games does not apply here. Go out and get it.

- EVE is a process game. Get a handle on the basics and ask questions, no matter how monotonous, seemingly "useless," and/or stupid they may seem.
The reason for this is that tactics and fits you learn today may be useless tomorrow. If you respect the process, you will learn how to quickly adapt. It is why many of us like this game.

- Have a sense of humor about everything... the darker the better. The game is cutthroat. And everyone likes a good laugh.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#4 - 2016-12-26 01:45:50 UTC
It's ok OP, we got you covered:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0kHXOmWIAQ6EUC.jpg



More seriously, if you want to find people to fit in with, I'd recommend getting involved with some of the social networks and sites with a lot of EVE players.

So in addition to here on the forums, /r/eve on reddit and #tweetfleet on twitter will give you are really good intro to some groups and keep you up to date on all the latest things happening.

Other then that, Mara's advice is spot on (as always), as is Shah's (as always too).
Keno Skir
#5 - 2016-12-26 02:19:29 UTC
Wow that's an incredibly irritating name Shocked
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#6 - 2016-12-26 05:42:09 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Keno Skir wrote:
Wow that's an incredibly irritating name Shocked

There was once an FC who I flew against named DerHURRderp.

We had a spy in his fleet once. He sounded exactly the way his name implied.

Our spy voluntarily left the fleet we wanted to ambush because, and I quote almost verbatim, "I was gonna ******* shoot the ************ on principle! But I didn't want to expose my alt over someone so ********."
Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#7 - 2016-12-26 05:56:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Aaron
Youtube is also a good resource for learning, I've seen a few "how to Eve" vids there. The good thing about this method is its recorded and you can have a look at it anytime if your friends are offline.

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-12-26 06:14:25 UTC
And lastly welcome to Eve,

May you have a long and rewarding career here.




DMC
Sara Starbuck
Adamantine Creations
#9 - 2016-12-26 06:36:09 UTC
Indeed, your name isnt really helping. You might be the coolest dude around but the name will hurt you.
If you are atleast semiserious of the game, you might want to restart your char with something more reasonable in the name field.
Velarra
#10 - 2016-12-26 07:04:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Velarra
Sara Starbuck wrote:
Indeed, your name isnt really helping. You might be the coolest dude around but the name will hurt you.
If you are atleast semiserious of the game, you might want to restart your char with something more reasonable in the name field.


Yeah. OP. You seem pretty darn genuine. And while this may be the General Discussion subforum, ... You might want a new character with a new name that's either rather human and normal, or something of a short handle that would be easy for others to say aloud on comms. And perhaps something you actually like/can live with long term.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-12-26 07:06:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Hello and welcome,

one of the holiest traditions around here is to actually be nice and helpful to newbies, so as long as people know you are a true newbie and not just a newly created forum alt (alt= alternative character/toon of an older player, in some games also called "twink") they will usually try to give you as much leeway as possible.
Unless, of course, you forfeit your rookie bonus by behaving like a douche. You came here and asked nicely and politely, and that's exactly the way to go (much as in Real Lifeā„¢). There are others who feel the need to whine and insult the community from the get go, proclaiming that this game is terrible and the community is stupid and antisocial after testing the game for only a few hours. Well, guess what, we have been playing this game for years, and we know perfectly well that it's terrible and that we're all stupid and antisocial, no need to rub into our faces...
So, what I'm trying to say is that despite the bad reputation this community has, almost everybody here will be friendly and helpful as long as you are and as long as you show a desire to learn from mistakes and improve yourself.


P.S. Your name is OK, wear your name tag with pride and honor.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-12-26 07:53:38 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Hello and welcome,

P.S. Your name is OK, wear your name tag with pride and honor.

This 100%.

If it becomes a problem on Comms, just have Fleet mates shorten it to Herp ...... or Herpin ...... or HerpDerp ...... or ......



DMC
Iain Cariaba
#13 - 2016-12-26 08:51:55 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
P.S. Your name is OK, wear your name tag with pride and honor.

Keep one thing in mind, OP, you cannot change you name here. Five or ten years down the road, are you still going to be happy with that name?

Or are you going to be one of those people who comes to forums and whines because they named their character something stupid when they were in their early 20s?
Keno Skir
#14 - 2016-12-26 10:58:11 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
P.S. Your name is OK, wear your name tag with pride and honor.

Keep one thing in mind, OP, you cannot change you name here. Five or ten years down the road, are you still going to be happy with that name?

Or are you going to be one of those people who comes to forums and whines because they named their character something stupid when they were in their early 20s?


I really hope he's not in his 20's.
Salvos Rhoska
#15 - 2016-12-26 11:37:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Finns are infamous for some of the most offensive, vulgar and uncreative ingame names in the world, cos nobody speaks our language, and its hilarious to hear foreigners try to pronounce them with no idea what they mean.

Finnish ingame names typically follow the forumla of = poopoo/peepee + genitals x expletive (for flavor).

Despite our reputation for innovation, we cannot into name creation... :(
We lack this capacity/technology.

But I think your ingame name might be even worse.
HERPINDERPINHERP HERPINDERPIN
Truly Fine Corporation
#16 - 2016-12-26 12:28:03 UTC  |  Edited by: HERPINDERPINHERP HERPINDERPIN
My name serves a purpose and it is fulfilling that purpose. While I was in the army I had the displeasure of serving with people I genuinely disliked and loathed due to often very strong opinions on everything from racism to religion to politics. I began to develop develop phrases and questions to detect and measure anything from a person's point of view on race and gender to where their political leanings are and if they possess the ability to think critically and objectively about a situation. No longer being in the active duty army I can pick and choose the company I keep much more readily but I still utilize some of these finder phrases of mine to get a quick analysis of an individual.

My name serves as a way to detect if an individual can/will immediately judge my intelligence and/or competence in a negative light based on their aversion or acceptance of something as simple as a name. This information lets me allocate my social resources and investments in people in a more fine tuned manner. Those that cannot see beyond a name they dislike and their immediate dis.missal of my intellectual capacity are a waste of time to me honestly
Salvos Rhoska
#17 - 2016-12-26 12:35:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
HERPINDERPINHERP HERPINDERPIN wrote:
My name serves a purpose and it is fulfilling that purpose. While I was in the army I had the displeasure of serving with people I genuinely disliked and loathed due to often very strong opinions on everything from racism to religion to politics. I began to develop develop phrases and questions to detect and measure anything from a person's point of view on race and gender to where their political leanings are and if they possess the ability to think critically and objectively about a situation. No longer being in the active duty army I can pick and choose the company I keep much more readily but I still utilize some of these finder phrases of mine to get a quick analysis of an individual.

My name serves as a way to detect if an individual can/will immediately judge my intelligence and/or competence in a negative light based on their aversion or acceptance of something as simple as a name. This information lets me allocate my social resources and investments in people in a more fine tuned manner. Those that cannot see beyond a name they dislike and their immediate dis.missal of my intellectual capacity are a waste of time to me honestly


Such a cunning plan... ala Baldrick.

Choose a silly, annoying name, so as to attract, entrust and differentiate people by their reaction.
HERPINDERPINHERP HERPINDERPIN clearly inspires trust in your commitment and demonstrates your intelligence.
Perhaps you will be the next Chribba?

Imagine if this had been your name in the military.
I expect you will get much the same result here, as you would have there.

(PS: There are a LOT of ex- and active military in EVE.)
HERPINDERPINHERP HERPINDERPIN
Truly Fine Corporation
#18 - 2016-12-26 12:38:17 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
HERPINDERPINHERP HERPINDERPIN wrote:
My name serves a purpose and it is fulfilling that purpose. While I was in the army I had the displeasure of serving with people I genuinely disliked and loathed due to often very strong opinions on everything from racism to religion to politics. I began to develop develop phrases and questions to detect and measure anything from a person's point of view on race and gender to where their political leanings are and if they possess the ability to think critically and objectively about a situation. No longer being in the active duty army I can pick and choose the company I keep much more readily but I still utilize some of these finder phrases of mine to get a quick analysis of an individual.

My name serves as a way to detect if an individual can/will immediately judge my intelligence and/or competence in a negative light based on their aversion or acceptance of something as simple as a name. This information lets me allocate my social resources and investments in people in a more fine tuned manner. Those that cannot see beyond a name they dislike and their immediate dis.missal of my intellectual capacity are a waste of time to me honestly


Such a cunning plan... ala Baldrick.

Imagine if this had been your name in the military.
I expect you will get much the same result here, as you would have there.

(PS: There are a LOT of ex- and active military in EVE.)



You are never called by your real name in the infantry.
Salvos Rhoska
#19 - 2016-12-26 12:43:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
HERPINDERPINHERP HERPINDERPIN wrote:


You are never called by your real name in the infantry.


So you prefer to be called HERPINDERPINHERP HERPINDERPIN?

Good call, bro. GL with that.

Your cunning plan is truly cunning!
HERPINDERPINHERP HERPINDERPIN
Truly Fine Corporation
#20 - 2016-12-26 12:54:30 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
HERPINDERPINHERP HERPINDERPIN wrote:


You are never called by your real name in the infantry.


So you prefer to be called HERPINDERPINHERP HERPINDERPIN?

Good call, bro. GL with that.

Your cunning plan is truly cunning!



If another individual's name has upset you enough to post on a public medium your vehemence towards it as well as the individual then I'd have to say it's working well enough for me
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