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The elusive Orca and Engi complexes

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Francis Podkill
Podkill Consolidated
#1 - 2016-12-25 18:31:55 UTC
I can't find any proof or explaination anywhere.

Can an Orca be produced in a highsec Raitaru using a regular Standup Manufacturing Plant?
And if so, what rig allows you to benefit from producing this ship?

And why the f*ck does a 4B medium rig give worse bonus than a 10m POS module give for producing capital components? 3% vs 20% nonetheless.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2016-12-25 18:43:47 UTC
Orca's are not technically capital ships and can be built in a Raitaru using the appropriate Large Ship Manufacturing rigs.

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Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2016-12-25 18:57:41 UTC
Just a thought here... probably because they want to narrow the gap in material efficiency between those who can produce out of a structure and those who do not.

those 20% pos benefits are going to be going away eventually, not right away, but I wouldn't be surprised if within the next year they start scaling back and shutting down POS functionality.

Believe it or not, this is actually a good thing. yes it means your material efficiency is going to drop, but currently the ME from pos production is so rediculously high that its practically impossible for anyone who doesn't have one to compete. most T1 items currently get manufactured at a loss unless you have a pos to build from. there simply is no way to compensate for that 20% on profit margins no matter how you slice it. The public EC's have made it slightly better, but it still makes it completely unusable for small scale industrialists.

by reducing the ME bonus to EC rigs, and eventually phasing out the OP POS modules, it levels the playing field. the market will adapt because NO ONE wants to be manufacturing at a loss, or at a pathetic 4 or 5% profit margin (what most solo and small scale industrialists are forced to do currently)

As for why the rig is 4b and the pos module only 10m... well the rig comes with asset safety, a place to dock, easier industrial logistics, and a smaller vulnerability window than a POS (which can be attacked at any time by someone who really wants to take it out instead of only during one particular time during the week that you get to choose)
They are also much newer, having only hit the market recently, so there hasn't been much time for supply and demand to balance out yet which helps keep the prices high. while i'm sure they will never drop below the billion mark, the price will come down eventually.

This is the new era of eve manufacturing, it is the rebalancing that has been a long time coming. Yes POS producers are on the **** end of the nerf bat in this case. but it is something that was needed. Adapt or get out of the game, thats the way eve has always been.