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Anyone dual-box with two monitors?

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Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#101 - 2011-12-27 03:14:41 UTC
Guillaume Adoulin wrote:
Darren Corley wrote:
As much as i'll get flamed or whatnot for this, here goes.

First, it's dual, not duel, you don't fight your box do you?

Secondly, getting tired of Manufacturers calling them LED displays. They're not, they're LCD. What they are is LED backlit as opposed to CCFL backlit.


Awesome, but aside from correcting people you really didn't add anything to the discussionRoll


I already added to the discussion in the last few pages. It's just when companies call them LED, when they're not real LED displays, it causes confusion with REAL LED based displays, like OLED and AMOLED. Some already say backlit in the description, many do not.
Endeavour Starfleet
#102 - 2011-12-27 03:58:47 UTC
LED TV has become the standard. Such as laser tv which in reality is just another light source for the throw. Yes there are the extremely large LED billboards and OLED type tech for phones. Yet for low power display LED is just easier for the layman to understand.

And the cost per inch or per pixel is so different between all three that I doubt anyone is going to be seriously confused for long.
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#103 - 2011-12-27 04:10:39 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
LED TV has become the standard. Such as laser tv which in reality is just another light source for the throw. Yes there are the extremely large LED billboards and OLED type tech for phones. Yet for low power display LED is just easier for the layman to understand.

And the cost per inch or per pixel is so different between all three that I doubt anyone is going to be seriously confused for long.


Except the cost of a Good CCFL Backlit LCD isn't really different from a good LED backlit LCD.

The issue some have is that many LED backlit displays are cheaply done, and don't look as nearly as good as they could.

Plus right now, for people like me who like more realistic colors, CCFL is the way to go. LED backlighting tends to be brighter and have better blacks, but also tends to be shifted towards one color more than CCFL. Means more adjusting the display. But they still don;t compare to CCFL for color reproduction. Most won't care, but some do. LED may or may not get to that point, we'll see.

Either way, it's still an LCD, just different light source. So if the panel itself is low quality, no light source is going to make it look good.
Endeavour Starfleet
#104 - 2011-12-27 05:01:41 UTC
You must be speaking of early generation panels using LED backlit. My current screen looks just as good as my power eating CCFL and I don't have to worry about it heating my room.

Yes I know that is likely a low priority for you. Yet for me and many others it is a great investment. Especially in big screen TVs where the older tech eats as much power as a CRT.
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#105 - 2011-12-27 07:46:48 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
You must be speaking of early generation panels using LED backlit. My current screen looks just as good as my power eating CCFL and I don't have to worry about it heating my room.

Yes I know that is likely a low priority for you. Yet for me and many others it is a great investment. Especially in big screen TVs where the older tech eats as much power as a CRT.


No i'm talking about how many displays are edge-lit. This is commonly considered not as good as CCFL, but it does make the display thinner. As for power consumption, yes, LEDs themselves use less power than CCFLs, but unless the company puts in good power saving electronics, the point is moot. I can't say which do and do not, but I know some have been shown to use more power on average than a similar CCFL lit display.

I'm not trying to knock LED here, I just see companies using the LED name as if it was the display type alone. And seeing people tout all the benefits as if they're 100% guaranteed in all panels using it, all the time. Right now there are many times CCFL is the obvious choice, in the future, maybe not. But we're not there yet.
Endeavour Starfleet
#106 - 2011-12-27 08:18:38 UTC
I wont argue with that.

And we have gotten way off topic anyway. Lets steer it back...

Jonny did you decide what you are going to do to run 2 accounts?
Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#107 - 2011-12-27 15:10:46 UTC
I run 3 (24" 1920x1200) screens between 2 computers with a KVM switch to swap the images depending on what I'm doing. It's pretty cheap to piece together a secondary computer that can run EVE especially if you're don't need all the eye candy turned up for a secondary client. Most monitors these days have a standard holes on the back that will support the VESA mount found on multiple-monitor stands (a huge desk space saver).

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David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#108 - 2011-12-27 16:33:55 UTC
Roh Voleto wrote:
First of all: You want two monitors anyway. After only a few days you'll start asking yourself how you made do with just one.

As far as EVE is concerned: I simply play in windowed mode. This way you can switch between clients just like any other application.



lol 3 monitors is even better Big smile

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Vaako Horizon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#109 - 2011-12-27 17:10:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaako Horizon
Sassums wrote:
Was just going to post about this:

I currently have a machine that is unable to run EVE on multiple screens - the minute I drag the game onto the second screen, the FPS drops significantly to a point where you are like a fast paced slide show. It also happens when I launch the second account onto the second screen. According to the GM's or Tech GM's they said it was Windows XP being unable to support the ability to run across both screens. One is a 22" and the other a 24". I tried running the game at the same resolution on both screens and different resolutions, and finally tried running the game across both screens using their different max resolutions, and then the max resolution for the smaller screen - none of the above worked.

Current specs are:
Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz
4GB RAM (3.25 useable due to XP 32bit).
Nvidia 560ti (DDR5 - 1GB)

Not sure what the issue is, the graphics card is more than capable of handing the instances of EVE. Has EVE become more CPU demanding rather than GPU? The ram is low I know, but it should be able to handle it (I can dual boot no problem, triple boxing starts to run into issues)

I plan on upgrading this PC:

Intel i7-2700k at 3.5Ghz - Turboboost up to 3.9Ghz
16GB DDR3 Ram
Nvidia 560ti (DDR5 - 1GB) - Same graphics card from old computer


The intel motherboard that comes with the CPU has 1 PCI-E 16.0 slot or I can set it to run 2 PCI-E 8.0 slots in SLI. My question is - whats better?

1 560ti at 16.0 or 2 at 8.0 (I'm fuzzy in that area whats the difference between 16.0 and 8.0)?

Or would it just be best to stick with one card, but find something better than the 560ti?

I want to be able to run 2 instances on 2 separate screens at the same time, and be able to switch back and fourth while using both of them.

I also want to be able to dual box a third account on one of the screens.

Any help is appreciated.



Windows XP.... There is a word that should be able to help you somewhat... UPGRADE!!
It will fix it all for you... go windows 7 or any of the linux systems out there.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#110 - 2011-12-27 17:47:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Severide
These wall mounting things work good

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/BaxterT/Computer%20Room/ComputerLivingRoom1.jpg

And please no comments on the rolls of paper towels. *snigger*

And then there is my computer room

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/BaxterT/Computer%20Room/ComputerMerge2.jpg
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#111 - 2011-12-27 17:51:02 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
Doc Severide wrote:
These wall mounting things work good

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/BaxterT/Computer%20Room/ComputerLivingRoom1.jpg

That must be a PITA to use with the monitors scattered all over at different angles and such. Looks harder to use than the setup on Swordfish.

edit: also, nice back scratcher. It's half-nerd, half-redneck!

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Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#112 - 2011-12-27 19:27:29 UTC
Fidelium Mortis wrote:
I run 3 (24" 1920x1200) screens between 2 computers with a KVM switch to swap the images depending on what I'm doing. It's pretty cheap to piece together a secondary computer that can run EVE especially if you're don't need all the eye candy turned up for a secondary client. Most monitors these days have a standard holes on the back that will support the VESA mount found on multiple-monitor stands (a huge desk space saver).


If you have more than one computer and each has it's own monitor, I find using Synergy or Input Director(as stated in an earlier post of mine) to be better solutions. No need to use a switch, just move the mouse off screen and you control one of the other computers.
Barakkus
#113 - 2011-12-27 19:47:31 UTC
DelBoy Trades wrote:
One of my monitors is 1680x1050, the other 1920x1080, no problem. Just copy your eve client so you have 2 with different resolutions, call one "right" and one "left".


You don't have to have 2 separate copies of the client:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Multiple_clients

Been using that method for years, only need to patch one client when there's a downloadable update.

Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 (2.66mhz)
Used to use ATI 2600 XT, got an ATI 6870
3 gigs of ram, XP 32 bit

Runs fine, I can have both clients optimized for quality and works good. Each client maintains it's own set of settings as well. Less headache.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#114 - 2011-12-27 19:49:27 UTC
I don't know what you guys are talking about...my normal install of EvE allows me to run as many clients as I want from it. The only thing I have to do is change the resolution and what monitor it appears on when I open it a second time, third time and whatever. Never gone past 3.

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Endeavour Starfleet
#115 - 2011-12-27 20:08:30 UTC
You know on that note would it be possible in the future for EVE to have its own config file that can be started with different shortcuts?

Nothing fancy just. a shortcut with the command Client1 or Client2 meaning create a new config file in the folder if there is not one.

Just a thought.
Vaako Horizon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#116 - 2011-12-28 07:09:11 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I don't know what you guys are talking about...my normal install of EvE allows me to run as many clients as I want from it. The only thing I have to do is change the resolution and what monitor it appears on when I open it a second time, third time and whatever. Never gone past 3.


With seperate clients you need not change resolution all the time :P
Vyl Vit
#117 - 2011-12-28 10:04:37 UTC
Monitors you say? MONITORS? Check this out.

http://www.cambio.net/monitors.jpg

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Vaako Horizon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#118 - 2011-12-29 06:11:06 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Monitors you say? MONITORS? Check this out.

http://www.cambio.net/monitors.jpg


Thats alot of CRT.... rather sad actually...