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Anyone dual-box with two monitors?

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Sassums
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#81 - 2011-12-26 11:56:01 UTC
Darren Corley wrote:
Sassums wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Yes now it is no wonder you found 184 USD to be cheap.

I really REALLY do not want to see your power bill. It would make baby al gore cry....

I know in the real world you have to pay a bit of a premium on Intel hardware compared to AMD. Yet I seriously find it difficult to justify 184 just to gain access to a 2x 16 PCIe slot layout.

Then again sassums did say he is getting one hell of a discount. I can't argue with that.

What GPU are you getting btw? AMDs 7x series is about to launch. And it features one hell of a power system that idles at less than 10W


Getting this cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115095

And this mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121511&Tpk=DP67BG

all for $250 directly from Intel.

I was sad to see it wasn't one of their new Hexacore CPU's, I will have to wait until they have a summer deal and see if they offer it then. If they do, perhaps I'll buy it, but then again this i7 quad core should be enough.

The other thing that sucks is, if they do offer the hexacore, they need to offer a board with it, because the current bundle I am getting does not support that new CPU.

The board has 1 PCI-E 16.0 slot, or you can use the 2 PCI-E slots at 8.0. Not sure what is better.

and a $550 motherboard? holy crap!


It wouldn't matter, the 6 core that is, since you'd need a different board altogether. The SB-E 6 Cores are LGA2011. And they use Quad Channel, so the RAM would be ok, but you'd need an X79 Board.

Yes I noticed you mentioned a different board AFTER I replied.


Already purchased the bundle and waiting on it to ship - no returns or refunds from Intel.

Although if they do another bundle with the Hexacore - they hopefully will offer it with a board that supports it.
DrStone
Thera Corp.
OnlyAlts.
#82 - 2011-12-26 11:57:00 UTC
The initial motivation was...if you want something done...do it youself and i was playing on my own...mining mainly.

Nowdays it became little bit more borring and i keep them just for skilling and exploring other ideas.

My computer handle all of them ok but not for anything more then flying in single system..did try to pvp a bit but that is bit overwhelming at this scale
Endeavour Starfleet
#83 - 2011-12-26 12:02:59 UTC
Mining I see. I would have guessed you were doing 10/10s or Sanctums by yourself but then again that would make the job of managing all those ships an absolute nightmare.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#84 - 2011-12-26 12:18:39 UTC
Funny story. I used to do lvl4 missions with one monitor and one account.

Then i got a second account, and alt-tabed.

Then i got a second monitor, and transitioned between them.

Then i got ISBoxer, and used both accounts in one monitor. Without alt-tabbing. Using 100% of the screen with one client.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Blue Binary
Polychoron
#85 - 2011-12-26 12:46:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Blue Binary
CCP Stillman wrote:
Can you actually get 8GB sticks? I've not been able to track down any non-ECC ones. And I've never found any in Iceland nor Denmark.

You can buy non-ECC 8GB modules straight from one of the manufacturers. Crucial (owned by Micron) sell direct, they ship worldwide too. UK Site and US site.

They also sell a 16GB module and, if you have the money, a 32GB module; but your motherboard needs to support ECC modules for these babies.

I've been using Crucial for over 10 years and (touch wood) have never had to RMA their memory. They have a memory assembly plant here in Scotland, so they are always in stock and delivered next day.
DrStone
Thera Corp.
OnlyAlts.
#86 - 2011-12-26 13:39:02 UTC
way expensive even for 8gb modules........
Bubanni
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2011-12-26 14:01:35 UTC
I used to play 3 accounts at the same time... don't play full screen :) alt tapping is not effective... just put them windowed.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#88 - 2011-12-26 14:49:30 UTC
Ummm...I have two monitors with two completely different resolutions and I run two instances of EvE in two different resolutions. Just saying...not sure why people seem to always think that resolutions have to match.

Anyway...yes...window mode is your friend in this case and it works very well.

Just stay out of CQ with both clients on high settings if you can help it.

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CCP Stillman
C C P
C C P Alliance
#89 - 2011-12-26 14:50:27 UTC
Blue Binary wrote:
CCP Stillman wrote:
Can you actually get 8GB sticks? I've not been able to track down any non-ECC ones. And I've never found any in Iceland nor Denmark.

You can buy non-ECC 8GB modules straight from one of the manufacturers. Crucial (owned by Micron) sell direct, they ship worldwide too. UK Site and US site.

They also sell a 16GB module and, if you have the money, a 32GB module; but your motherboard needs to support ECC modules for these babies.

I've been using Crucial for over 10 years and (touch wood) have never had to RMA their memory. They have a memory assembly plant here in Scotland, so they are always in stock and delivered next day.

That's pretty hot. A shame my P55-GD65 can only hold 16gb of RAM. Though that's still twice what I have now, which really should be sufficient until the next Intel tock(22nm tock, unless the 22nm tick is a must-have upgrade. Who knows Shocked )

Just a random dude in Team Security.

J Kunjeh
#90 - 2011-12-26 15:34:49 UTC
Confirming that I have a dual monitor setup so that I can play Eve on one, while I play the Eve forums and Eve blogs on the other.

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#91 - 2011-12-26 15:51:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
JonnyRandom wrote:
You say I'll need to have both monitors run the same resolution? That could be a problem... my current monitor only supports 1680x1050



Go t o your computer's display and settings, you can tell it to make your screen run at any resolution that you want. Make sure that the screen with the highest resolution is the same as the screen with the lowest resolution. This will make it easier on your video card.


My lowest res screen is 1440 by 900, and so I have to set my high res screen to the same settings in order to make eve lag less on 2 screens.

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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#92 - 2011-12-26 16:55:08 UTC
CCP Stillman wrote:
Blue Binary wrote:
CCP Stillman wrote:
Can you actually get 8GB sticks? I've not been able to track down any non-ECC ones. And I've never found any in Iceland nor Denmark.

You can buy non-ECC 8GB modules straight from one of the manufacturers. Crucial (owned by Micron) sell direct, they ship worldwide too. UK Site and US site.

They also sell a 16GB module and, if you have the money, a 32GB module; but your motherboard needs to support ECC modules for these babies.

I've been using Crucial for over 10 years and (touch wood) have never had to RMA their memory. They have a memory assembly plant here in Scotland, so they are always in stock and delivered next day.

That's pretty hot. A shame my P55-GD65 can only hold 16gb of RAM. Though that's still twice what I have now, which really should be sufficient until the next Intel tock(22nm tock, unless the 22nm tick is a must-have upgrade. Who knows Shocked )




care to get some answers to a 80+ thread?

R.S.I2014

JonnyRandom
#93 - 2011-12-26 16:55:45 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
JonnyRandom wrote:
You say I'll need to have both monitors run the same resolution? That could be a problem... my current monitor only supports 1680x1050



Go t o your computer's display and settings, you can tell it to make your screen run at any resolution that you want. Make sure that the screen with the highest resolution is the same as the screen with the lowest resolution. This will make it easier on your video card.


My lowest res screen is 1440 by 900, and so I have to set my high res screen to the same settings in order to make eve lag less on 2 screens.


This is what I don't get. Reducing the resolution of the bigger monitor to fit the smaller one is counter-intuitive. And is certainly a waste of the bigger res monitor. Why do I have to have them both the same resolution? There are people in this thread that say they use monitors with different resolutions without problems, so it's not a hardware issue, right?
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#94 - 2011-12-26 18:37:17 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:

1. Both screens need to be at the same resolution (regardless of what type of screens you have)
2. You will probably get lag and low FPS on two screens if you don't have a great computer setup.
3. To reduce lag reduce the resolution of the actual EVE Client and run it in window mode
4. Expand said windows with your mouse until they are the size of your screen
5. DO NOT double click on the game to make it stick to the full size of the screen (this will cause lag with lesser video cards) It can be the same size as your screen, you just can "sticky it", don't ask me why. Ugh So make sure that you resize it with your mouse.


1. Not true. I run a 1680x1050 as my secondary display with a 1920x1080 below it as the primary.

2. True for WinXP, not true for Win7 (in fact I went from getting 15-20 FPS with 2 clients up to 30-60 FPS with 2 clients with no change in hardware when I updated to Win7).

3. True, running EVE in windowed mode is best if you're going to multi-box across 1+ monitors. The secondary accounts can be run in tiny 1024x768 windows. The primary account runs at either 1440x900 or a 1600x900 window.

4 & 5. Optional.

There are VESA stands that you can buy out there which let you stack (2) monitors vertically on your desktop. It works best with a pair of 22" monitors, but you can stack 27" monsters as long as you have enough depth on your desk to push them back about 6".
Enquirer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#95 - 2011-12-26 20:17:37 UTC
I need just 1 more account and i can run missions with a guy repping me, thats all. Now 6 accounts later....I only need 2 more and ill be fine.

Running 6 accounts on 1 pc with 2 screens... Key was making sure your pc has plenty of memory (currently have 12 gigs of on board memory)
runs smooth.
Harleigh
Genbuku.
Psycho Unicorn Squad
#96 - 2011-12-27 00:44:11 UTC
Enquirer wrote:
I need just 1 more account and i can run missions with a guy repping me, thats all. Now 6 accounts later....I only need 2 more and ill be fine.

Running 6 accounts on 1 pc with 2 screens... Key was making sure your pc has plenty of memory (currently have 12 gigs of on board memory)
runs smooth.



Dude, that is the story of every EVE addicts life :)

I started with one, then just needed another for ....


7 years , 8 accounts , 2 pc's and 6 monitors later, I still want another account cause now 2 are stuck in supers :(

And as I wrote this I thought to myself "Good thing my wife puts up with this" , then I looked across the hallway into her home office as she sat there playing Skyrim on a triple monitor layout and I didn't feel so bad anymore :)

Guillaume Adoulin
Overclocker.
Neon Nightmares
#97 - 2011-12-27 01:02:40 UTC
I duel box using my laptop(Dell inspiron i5) and a 32'' LED TV as the extended display. Runs pretty smooth on moderate graphics settings. Aside from a few overheating issues that plague my particular laptop model this is my favorite way to duel box. Saves a ton of space and EVE looks great on LED Big smile
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#98 - 2011-12-27 01:30:18 UTC
As much as i'll get flamed or whatnot for this, here goes.

First, it's dual, not duel, you don't fight your box do you?

Secondly, getting tired of Manufacturers calling them LED displays. They're not, they're LCD. What they are is LED backlit as opposed to CCFL backlit.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#99 - 2011-12-27 01:46:37 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Funny story. I used to do lvl4 missions with one monitor and one account.

Then i got a second account, and alt-tabed.

Then i got a second monitor, and transitioned between them.

Then i got ISBoxer, and used both accounts in one monitor. Without alt-tabbing. Using 100% of the screen with one client.


Funny story, linux has been doing that for years and years with no extra software needed. Recently Windows has copied many features of linux, I hope multiple desktops per monitors one of them. I love the performance and security of linux, and love the DX in windows. Maybe someday I can have both.

To answer the OP, you aint playin EvE till you're running multiple accounts and monitors. Until then, you are just playing between "trial" and "full".

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are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

Guillaume Adoulin
Overclocker.
Neon Nightmares
#100 - 2011-12-27 03:05:33 UTC
Darren Corley wrote:
As much as i'll get flamed or whatnot for this, here goes.

First, it's dual, not duel, you don't fight your box do you?

Secondly, getting tired of Manufacturers calling them LED displays. They're not, they're LCD. What they are is LED backlit as opposed to CCFL backlit.


Awesome, but aside from correcting people you really didn't add anything to the discussionRoll