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Endeavour Starfleet
#61 - 2011-12-26 11:03:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Endeavour Starfleet
Edit: Nm I guess that means 4 sticks not actually quad channel considering they mention Phenom II X6

BTW what on earth do you need such an expensive mobo for anyway?
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#62 - 2011-12-26 11:06:28 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
That memory says it is a quad channel kit.

I dont know much about memory past dual channel but that looks a bit off as the board you are looking at says dual channel. I don't really know if that affects anything but do make sure before hitting buy.

BTW what on earth do you need such an expensive mobo for anyway?


That motherboard is cheap. And quad channel is for the new chipset and extreme chips coming out. Since it's 4 sticks of the same stuff, it will work as dual channel too.
DrStone
Thera Corp.
OnlyAlts.
#63 - 2011-12-26 11:06:50 UTC
CCP Stillman wrote:
Darren Corley wrote:
Sassums wrote:
While the 16GB might be over kill - the cost difference between 8 and 16 is just so small - best to do it right. The board can support up to 32GB of Ram, but it jumps the price from $70-90(for 16) to over $300 for 32.

I am getting the Intel Core i7-2700k and the Intel DP67BGB3 board for $250.

Another $100 for RAM

And another 50-75 for CD/DVD Drives since my old ones won't work anymore and I am set.


It's still your money in any case, but if you only really game on it, the i7 will be wasted. And with the RAM, unless it's 2 sticks of 8GB, i'd still go with 2x4.

Can you actually get 8GB sticks? I've not been able to track down any non-ECC ones. And I've never found any in Iceland nor Denmark.



you can in UK as well.

http://www.lambda-tek.com/F3-10666CL9S-8GBXL-gskill-8GB-DDR3-1333-CL9-0-RIPJAWS-X-RED-RET~cs/B747100

there are in stock after xmas

also I'm using same installation of EVE for playing on up to 10 clients per machine..small ssd 8gb ram quad phenom..some 5850 gpu....
Endeavour Starfleet
#64 - 2011-12-26 11:08:32 UTC
Sassums wrote:
Darren Corley wrote:
Sassums wrote:
Darren Corley wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
I am not really worried about stressing the memory controller. Most of the time it is built into the CPU and has the same amount of ruggedness the rest of the system has anyway.

It is just that if you went all out with all them filled off the bat you leave no room for upgrading later. Some do this so they can upgrade their HTPC memory with the old later on but not everyone has an HTPC to use the old stuff.


It's mainly due to the fact that with all slots filled, it's NOT as rugged as the rest of the CPU.

Especially if the system is for games and such, and you like to overclock. Or using high frequency RAM.


Not overclocking, 3.5 is more than enough.

This is the memory I am looking at:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231441&Tpk=F3-10666CL9Q-16GBXL


Considering there are games out there that even 3.5Ghz on Sandy Bridge is not enough.... But who knows if you'll ever play them. That and you don't have to use OC'd RAM to OC SB anyways.


Seriously?

Well the CPU can turbo up to like 3.9 I think. All I am playing is EVE - will try out TOR eventually.

I have a 360 for everything else :)



TOR hates my GPU (its 512mb of fail) but CPU seems to be ok. I don't think you will have much to worry about with TOR.

I still think the i7 is overkill tho. If you are serious about spending those funds perhaps wait for ivy bridge with its 22nm 3D process?
Endeavour Starfleet
#65 - 2011-12-26 11:12:51 UTC
Darren Corley wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
That memory says it is a quad channel kit.

I dont know much about memory past dual channel but that looks a bit off as the board you are looking at says dual channel. I don't really know if that affects anything but do make sure before hitting buy.

BTW what on earth do you need such an expensive mobo for anyway?


That motherboard is cheap. And quad channel is for the new chipset and extreme chips coming out. Since it's 4 sticks of the same stuff, it will work as dual channel too.


Compared to what? What on it warrants such a spending of funds?
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#66 - 2011-12-26 11:14:33 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Darren Corley wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
That memory says it is a quad channel kit.

I dont know much about memory past dual channel but that looks a bit off as the board you are looking at says dual channel. I don't really know if that affects anything but do make sure before hitting buy.

BTW what on earth do you need such an expensive mobo for anyway?


That motherboard is cheap. And quad channel is for the new chipset and extreme chips coming out. Since it's 4 sticks of the same stuff, it will work as dual channel too.


Compared to what? What on it warrants such a spending of funds?


Compared to the board i'm using for sure, and many other high end enthusiast boards.

This is the one I have: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188070
DrStone
Thera Corp.
OnlyAlts.
#67 - 2011-12-26 11:18:28 UTC
nice... :)
DrStone
Thera Corp.
OnlyAlts.
#68 - 2011-12-26 11:19:38 UTC
also...I did a test and was able to run and tab between 35 eve clients on 16Gb ...but again thats bit overkill
Endeavour Starfleet
#69 - 2011-12-26 11:24:03 UTC
Yes now it is no wonder you found 184 USD to be cheap.

I really REALLY do not want to see your power bill. It would make baby al gore cry....

I know in the real world you have to pay a bit of a premium on Intel hardware compared to AMD. Yet I seriously find it difficult to justify 184 just to gain access to a 2x 16 PCIe slot layout.

Then again sassums did say he is getting one hell of a discount. I can't argue with that.

What GPU are you getting btw? AMDs 7x series is about to launch. And it features one hell of a power system that idles at less than 10W
Endeavour Starfleet
#70 - 2011-12-26 11:25:06 UTC
DrStone wrote:
also...I did a test and was able to run and tab between 35 eve clients on 16Gb ...but again thats bit overkill


At the login screen? Otherwise do you seriously have 35 Eve accounts? (And not bot for that matter? j/k Big smile)
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#71 - 2011-12-26 11:28:18 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Yes now it is no wonder you found 184 USD to be cheap.

I really REALLY do not want to see your power bill. It would make baby al gore cry....

I know in the real world you have to pay a bit of a premium on Intel hardware compared to AMD. Yet I seriously find it difficult to justify 184 just to gain access to a 2x 16 PCIe slot layout.

Then again sassums did say he is getting one hell of a discount. I can't argue with that.

What GPU are you getting btw? AMDs 7x series is about to launch. And it features one hell of a power system that idles at less than 10W


The power bill is only bad when I actually push the thing. If I leave it at stock 3.33Ghz with Power Saving crud on, the X5680s and the 2x 5970s don't actually pull a whole lot. The bigger problem is that it has two PSUs, and I need two separate circuits for it, or at least a 15A that it can use exclusively.
Endeavour Starfleet
#72 - 2011-12-26 11:32:02 UTC
Darren Corley wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Yes now it is no wonder you found 184 USD to be cheap.

I really REALLY do not want to see your power bill. It would make baby al gore cry....

I know in the real world you have to pay a bit of a premium on Intel hardware compared to AMD. Yet I seriously find it difficult to justify 184 just to gain access to a 2x 16 PCIe slot layout.

Then again sassums did say he is getting one hell of a discount. I can't argue with that.

What GPU are you getting btw? AMDs 7x series is about to launch. And it features one hell of a power system that idles at less than 10W


The power bill is only bad when I actually push the thing. If I leave it at stock 3.33Ghz with Power Saving crud on, the X5680s and the 2x 5970s don't actually pull a whole lot. The bigger problem is that it has two PSUs, and I need two separate circuits for it, or at least a 15A that it can use exclusively.


So if you plug in a killawatt meter it displays "Yer fraked next bill" Or "The heater says day' took er JOBS!!!" Got it! Lol

Two PSUs... Dear pete.... Shocked
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#73 - 2011-12-26 11:33:38 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Darren Corley wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Yes now it is no wonder you found 184 USD to be cheap.

I really REALLY do not want to see your power bill. It would make baby al gore cry....

I know in the real world you have to pay a bit of a premium on Intel hardware compared to AMD. Yet I seriously find it difficult to justify 184 just to gain access to a 2x 16 PCIe slot layout.

Then again sassums did say he is getting one hell of a discount. I can't argue with that.

What GPU are you getting btw? AMDs 7x series is about to launch. And it features one hell of a power system that idles at less than 10W


The power bill is only bad when I actually push the thing. If I leave it at stock 3.33Ghz with Power Saving crud on, the X5680s and the 2x 5970s don't actually pull a whole lot. The bigger problem is that it has two PSUs, and I need two separate circuits for it, or at least a 15A that it can use exclusively.


So if you plug in a killawatt meter it displays "Yer fraked next bill" Or "The heater says day' took er JOBS!!!" Got it! Lol

Two PSUs... Dear pete.... Shocked


Yeah, a 1200W for the motherboard and video cards. Then a 750W for everything else, like drives, 15 fans, etc. That second one barely gets used though.
DrStone
Thera Corp.
OnlyAlts.
#74 - 2011-12-26 11:34:41 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
DrStone wrote:
also...I did a test and was able to run and tab between 35 eve clients on 16Gb ...but again thats bit overkill


At the login screen? Otherwise do you seriously have 35 Eve accounts? (And not bot for that matter? j/k Big smile)



not booting...believe or not....it was to test the limits of my machine..all logged on and minimised..Eve client takes anything from 200-550mb for me so it was lot of swapping to ssd

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/35clientstest.jpg/

it's plausible but not sure what would be longer term purpose of doing it....maintaing hi local in some 0.0 and preventing people from boting ?
Sassums
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#75 - 2011-12-26 11:38:56 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Yes now it is no wonder you found 184 USD to be cheap.

I really REALLY do not want to see your power bill. It would make baby al gore cry....

I know in the real world you have to pay a bit of a premium on Intel hardware compared to AMD. Yet I seriously find it difficult to justify 184 just to gain access to a 2x 16 PCIe slot layout.

Then again sassums did say he is getting one hell of a discount. I can't argue with that.

What GPU are you getting btw? AMDs 7x series is about to launch. And it features one hell of a power system that idles at less than 10W


Getting this cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115095

And this mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121511&Tpk=DP67BG

all for $250 directly from Intel.

I was sad to see it wasn't one of their new Hexacore CPU's, I will have to wait until they have a summer deal and see if they offer it then. If they do, perhaps I'll buy it, but then again this i7 quad core should be enough.

The other thing that sucks is, if they do offer the hexacore, they need to offer a board with it, because the current bundle I am getting does not support that new CPU.

The board has 1 PCI-E 16.0 slot, or you can use the 2 PCI-E slots at 8.0. Not sure what is better.

and a $550 motherboard? holy crap!
Endeavour Starfleet
#76 - 2011-12-26 11:40:53 UTC
I am against AFK cloaking and I don't think that would be viable anyway as the costs of maintaining such a net of ships would be insane.

If I had a solar roof and bored friends I would dream of running 10 accounts and running incursions just for me... Epic EPIC isk/hr lol...
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#77 - 2011-12-26 11:41:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Darren Corley
Sassums wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Yes now it is no wonder you found 184 USD to be cheap.

I really REALLY do not want to see your power bill. It would make baby al gore cry....

I know in the real world you have to pay a bit of a premium on Intel hardware compared to AMD. Yet I seriously find it difficult to justify 184 just to gain access to a 2x 16 PCIe slot layout.

Then again sassums did say he is getting one hell of a discount. I can't argue with that.

What GPU are you getting btw? AMDs 7x series is about to launch. And it features one hell of a power system that idles at less than 10W


Getting this cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115095

And this mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121511&Tpk=DP67BG

all for $250 directly from Intel.

I was sad to see it wasn't one of their new Hexacore CPU's, I will have to wait until they have a summer deal and see if they offer it then. If they do, perhaps I'll buy it, but then again this i7 quad core should be enough.

The other thing that sucks is, if they do offer the hexacore, they need to offer a board with it, because the current bundle I am getting does not support that new CPU.

The board has 1 PCI-E 16.0 slot, or you can use the 2 PCI-E slots at 8.0. Not sure what is better.

and a $550 motherboard? holy crap!


It wouldn't matter, the 6 core that is, since you'd need a different board altogether. The SB-E 6 Cores are LGA2011. And they use Quad Channel, so the RAM would be ok, but you'd need an X79 Board.

Yes I noticed you mentioned a different board AFTER I replied.
Endeavour Starfleet
#78 - 2011-12-26 11:44:46 UTC
Sassums IF you have time to wait I would seriously wait. Or atleast see where the trends go in the early part of 2012 before you buy.

The 22nm stuff is supposed to be killer with power consumption and turbo. Because of that new 3D transistor stuff.

http://www.slashgear.com/intel-ivy-bridge-desktop-cpu-pricing-leaks-20203598/ If that leak is true the TDP is awesomely low.
DrStone
Thera Corp.
OnlyAlts.
#79 - 2011-12-26 11:45:14 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
I am against AFK cloaking and I don't think that would be viable anyway as the costs of maintaining such a net of ships would be insane.

If I had a solar roof and bored friends I would dream of running 10 accounts and running incursions just for me... Epic EPIC isk/hr lol...



I'm maintaining healthy 11 acounts..
Endeavour Starfleet
#80 - 2011-12-26 11:51:17 UTC
DrStone wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
I am against AFK cloaking and I don't think that would be viable anyway as the costs of maintaining such a net of ships would be insane.

If I had a solar roof and bored friends I would dream of running 10 accounts and running incursions just for me... Epic EPIC isk/hr lol...



I'm maintaining healthy 11 acounts..


A bit off topic but if I may ask. Is there really a benefit of running that many? Does it not get to a point where you leave some logged off at many a time because you don't have the will to control that many?

I find two to be hard enough at times but 11? And how does your computer handle that?