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A rogue from the past

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2016-12-24 17:20:10 UTC
It's a little neat how many different ways an infomorph can get damaged.

Ms. Li loses a bunch of functional knowledge, but keeps her memories and stays basically the same person. I lose my memories and might arguably not be the same person, but still know what I knew. I've met at least one person who couldn't even remember how to do simple daily tasks, like brushing her teeth. We're all at least lucky enough to be left with intact, usable minds, though.

I wonder what it would be like to end up just ... scrambled. Broken forever. Is that, maybe, what a "cloning error" really means, before you get biomassed?
Arrendis
TK Corp
#22 - 2016-12-24 17:25:59 UTC
I tend to think no-one can ever really now. Not even—maybe especially?—if it happens to you.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2016-12-24 18:24:35 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
I tend to think no-one can ever really now. Not even—maybe especially?—if it happens to you.

Probably. You might experience it, but you'd never know.

... so, I guess, maybe the way a slug experiences being salted? It's obvious that it hurts, or at least that something's very very wrong, but there's no storage capacity.
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#24 - 2016-12-24 20:51:27 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
It's a little neat how many different ways an infomorph can get damaged.

Ms. Li loses a bunch of functional knowledge, but keeps her memories and stays basically the same person. I lose my memories and might arguably not be the same person, but still know what I knew. I've met at least one person who couldn't even remember how to do simple daily tasks, like brushing her teeth. We're all at least lucky enough to be left with intact, usable minds, though.

I wonder what it would be like to end up just ... scrambled. Broken forever. Is that, maybe, what a "cloning error" really means, before you get biomassed?

Someone very dear to me could answer that, were she capable of such.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

Alexandra Belana Li
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#25 - 2016-12-24 21:03:43 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
It's a little neat how many different ways an infomorph can get damaged.

Ms. Li loses a bunch of functional knowledge, but keeps her memories and stays basically the same person. I lose my memories and might arguably not be the same person, but still know what I knew. I've met at least one person who couldn't even remember how to do simple daily tasks, like brushing her teeth. We're all at least lucky enough to be left with intact, usable minds, though.

I wonder what it would be like to end up just ... scrambled. Broken forever. Is that, maybe, what a "cloning error" really means, before you get biomassed?


I read a very interesting piece from a member of pie. Although our ideals on the inherent born freedom of the individual capsuleer are vastly different, the theology of the soul fits in a very unique place as my experiences have taken me down the caliginous spiral of nothingness. It was in that void that I discovered the truth, that we are all infinite. Our consciousness, that which make us ourselves, is eternal with thoughts, ideals, and values, the fuel that keeps our essence alive.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#26 - 2016-12-24 21:27:57 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
... so, I guess, maybe the way a slug experiences being salted? It's obvious that it hurts, or at least that something's very very wrong, but there's no storage capacity.


You hope. Still seems a bit cruel.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#27 - 2016-12-24 21:31:30 UTC
Alexandra Belana Li wrote:
It was in that void that I discovered the truth, that we are all infinite. Our consciousness, that which make us ourselves, is eternal with thoughts, ideals, and values, the fuel that keeps our essence alive.


Are you saying that you actively experienced consciousness without a brain? And if so, can you demonstrate that this isn't a memory corruption in your infomorph?
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#28 - 2016-12-24 21:32:57 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Alexandra Belana Li wrote:
It was in that void that I discovered the truth, that we are all infinite. Our consciousness, that which make us ourselves, is eternal with thoughts, ideals, and values, the fuel that keeps our essence alive.


Are you saying that you actively experienced consciousness without a brain? And if so, can you demonstrate that this isn't a memory corruption in your infomorph?

I've heard similar stories from others. But never proof. My sole experience could have been described as blissfully silent.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

Alexandra Belana Li
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#29 - 2016-12-25 03:59:09 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Alexandra Belana Li wrote:
It was in that void that I discovered the truth, that we are all infinite. Our consciousness, that which make us ourselves, is eternal with thoughts, ideals, and values, the fuel that keeps our essence alive.


Are you saying that you actively experienced consciousness without a brain? And if so, can you demonstrate that this isn't a memory corruption in your infomorph?


Actually I don't quite know how it happened. It was as if one day I closed my eyes for slumber, and the next awoke with intact memories and a different, yet similar body. Everything looked and felt the same as before, yet somehow I knew that it wasn't my own flesh. I have experienced severe gaps in my educational knowledge, but not in my understanding of how the knowledge is applied. Each time I train up a former skill, my cognitive technical abilities and subconscious memories are incorporated with the learned discipline. To be completely honest, I do not know if my consciousness survived outside of my brain, or if my brain was preserved.

The first gap in my memories was approximately seven years, and the second four years. I am starting to become concerned that I may have fallen into the hands of my enemies toward the conclusion of Great Northern War.
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2016-12-28 23:44:04 UTC
John Revenent wrote:
Jason Galente wrote:
SniggWaffe is recruiting private military contractors. As a nomadic bunch, we protect our own, we teach you to fight. You can take those skills and use them to assert your independence.

As far as a true ideology that takes primacy over other matters like power and money... you won't find much of that around, these days. Not amongst organizations that matter.


You sure do get around. This is the third organization you've joined within the year is it not?


Same organization, different subdivisions.

Besides, even if it were different organizations, 3 organizations in one year is not a lot. Get the pine cone out of your ass, your role in the IGS lately has been 'old man yells at nebula', which is unbecoming of your former prominence.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2016-12-28 23:47:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jason Galente
Alexandra Belana Li wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Alexandra Belana Li wrote:
It was in that void that I discovered the truth, that we are all infinite. Our consciousness, that which make us ourselves, is eternal with thoughts, ideals, and values, the fuel that keeps our essence alive.


Are you saying that you actively experienced consciousness without a brain? And if so, can you demonstrate that this isn't a memory corruption in your infomorph?




The first gap in my memories was approximately seven years, and the second four years. I am starting to become concerned that I may have fallen into the hands of my enemies toward the conclusion of Great Northern War.


I bet you're a walking history book. I have great interest in this time period, if you don't mind I'd like to chat some time.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#32 - 2016-12-31 00:08:22 UTC  |  Edited by: John Revenent
Jason Galente wrote:
Besides, even if it were different organizations, 3 organizations in one year is not a lot. Get the pine cone out of your ass, your role in the IGS lately has been 'old man yells at nebula', which is unbecoming of your former prominence.


Three organizations in one year is a lot for those who have a inkling of an idea what loyalty is. I'd rather have a pinecone up my ass than act like a manchild who thinks they are tough by spewing verbal diarrhea. You likely know little to nothing of my past here. Don't assume you do.

Ishukone Loyalist - Private Contractor

"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2016-12-31 01:12:39 UTC
Jason is being an inflammatory idiot but he is not wrong about the subject John. Finding the corporation and career you want to pursue is a lifelong effort and almost no one is lucky enough to stumble into what they want to do with their lives immediately.

It is absurd you think that a shifting corporation history is because they are disloyal; They are still finding their place in New Eden.


Of course, if you have evidence of disloyalty to SniggWaffe or Horde by Jason, please message me and I will bring it to Reza directly and immediately.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#34 - 2016-12-31 01:20:01 UTC
Jason Galente wrote:
Get the pine cone out of your ass, your role in the IGS lately has been 'old man yells at nebula', which is unbecoming of your former prominence.


Jason, are you saying John's just not revenant anymore?
Arrendis
TK Corp
#35 - 2016-12-31 01:21:19 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
Of course, if you have evidence of disloyalty to SniggWaffe or Horde by Jason, please message me and I will bring it to Reza directly and immediately.


Well, there was that one time he didn't throw a goon across the room for sitting in his lap...
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2016-12-31 01:26:04 UTC
Maybe you should have rode harder then. See a relationship counselor.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#37 - 2016-12-31 01:43:38 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
Jason is being an inflammatory idiot but he is not wrong about the subject John. Finding the corporation and career you want to pursue is a lifelong effort and almost no one is lucky enough to stumble into what they want to do with their lives immediately.

It is absurd you think that a shifting corporation history is because they are disloyal; They are still finding their place in New Eden.


Of course, if you have evidence of disloyalty to SniggWaffe or Horde by Jason, please message me and I will bring it to Reza directly and immediately.


We'll have to agree to disagree then Ayallah. Do know, I appreciate the diplomatic tone and tact. It really is a rarity among the majority of our peers these days.

Ishukone Loyalist - Private Contractor

"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2016-12-31 01:53:36 UTC
Is it better to be loyal to a group that does not conform to your ideals or share your goals and be unhappy?

I expect I know the answer a Caldari will give but yes, we may just have to disagree.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2017-01-07 02:59:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jason Galente
John Revenent wrote:


We'll have to agree to disagree then Ayallah. Do know, I appreciate the diplomatic tone and tact. It really is a rarity among the majority of our peers these days.


Sorry if I triggered you John, but when someone starts off the discussion with an accusation of disloyalty (which I take very seriously), it kind of starts things off on the wrong foot and I am left to play to my strength and mock you as the grouchy has-been that refuses to retire into political obscurity, that you are. Don't dish out public character assassination and then cry foul when something much less impactful is hurled back at you.

And as to your claim that I don't know much about history, I seem to be more up to date on political connections than you, if you didn't even know that Horde, Spaceship Samurai, and SniggWaffe are all affiliated with Pandemic Legion, in a coalition that is arguably one of the major power blocs in New Eden right now.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Arrendis
TK Corp
#40 - 2017-01-07 06:59:00 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
Maybe you should have rode harder then. See a relationship counselor.


Actually, the reason he didn't throw me across the room is I didn't sit in his lap.
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