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Don Pera Saissore
#81 - 2016-12-20 13:19:01 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
The fact is, I'm going to rip anyone and everyone that pisses and moans on the forums about their dissatisfaction with the free stuff they're getting, and I'm going to do that despite your judgements of me, because who even are you? I think I've picked lint from my belly button that I cared more about than you.


I agree with you and i enjoy watching you tearing up assholes but this is not about entitlement at least not for me.

My problem is i dont like being treated like an idiot. Now im not a smart guy, never was and never will be, but the thing is you dont have to be smart to smell bullshit.

Ive been a gamer for a long time now, played a lot of games from a lot of developers, one of the reasons i sticked around here was because when i came in i got the impression that the community is mature and that developers respect that. From my experience that was a rare quality of a gaming company

The first yuletide event i saw was the yule lads in 2013 and i was very impressed. For me that was an introduction in to a foreign folklore and it made me want to learn more about the yule lads legends and tales. That was an event i will always remember not because of the gifts but because of the effort developers have put in to it.

The subsequent events are all unmemorable but you can bet ill remember this one because it gives the impression that the developers raised their hands said **** it im lazy and i dont give a ****, heres something that looks like i give a damn.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2016-12-20 13:27:53 UTC
Don Pera Saissore wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
The fact is, I'm going to rip anyone and everyone that pisses and moans on the forums about their dissatisfaction with the free stuff they're getting, and I'm going to do that despite your judgements of me, because who even are you? I think I've picked lint from my belly button that I cared more about than you.


I agree with you and i enjoy watching you tearing up assholes but this is not about entitlement at least not for me.

My problem is i dont like being treated like an idiot. Now im not a smart guy, never was and never will be, but the thing is you dont have to be smart to smell bullshit.

Ive been a gamer for a long time now, played a lot of games from a lot of developers, one of the reasons i sticked around here was because when i came in i got the impression that the community is mature and that developers respect that. From my experience that was a rare quality of a gaming company

The first yuletide event i saw was the yule lads in 2013 and i was very impressed. For me that was an introduction in to a foreign folklore and it made me want to learn more about the yule lads legends and tales. That was an event i will always remember not because of the gifts but because of the effort developers have put in to it.

The subsequent events are all unmemorable but you can bet ill remember this one because it gives the impression that the developers raised their hands said **** it im lazy and i dont give a ****, heres something that looks like i give a damn.


What?

Don't have to be smart to smell bullshit? No, of course you don't.

But no one is holding a gun to your head and making you buy anything on the store, and regardless of CCP's 2013 christmas events, they are not obliged in any way to 'give a damn' so if they don't, and this is what we get, then this is what we get. The fact that people feel like they've been hard done by here is what I'm critiquing. You haven't. The only thing that changed, today, is that stuff on the EVE store cost 15% less. And people are complaining about that, as if CCP insulted their mothers. GG, nubs. You might not have to be smart to smell bullshit, but apparently it takes a lot more to figure out the difference between a real problem and a first-world one.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Don Pera Saissore
#83 - 2016-12-20 13:44:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Don Pera Saissore
They made it a first world problem by giving out discounts on purchases

Edit: Like i said i completely agree with you, ccp didnt have to give us ****.

If they actually had the balls to do that, to show us a middle finger and say you get jack **** i would be along side you defending them and taking a dump on all the entitled, spoiled, whiny, little brats in a thread like this.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#84 - 2016-12-20 14:09:59 UTC
Moksa Elodie wrote:
It's funny, a couple of days ago I noticed another internet spaceships game(E:D) was doing Christmas gifts for it's players also.

Those gifts are special edition skins on sale on the game's website and I thought how nice it was that CCP gave actual gifts and not "special" offers in an attempt to cash grab. 🙄


Those are no gifts and FD doesn't calls them gifts. It's a "Festive Countdown" with time-limited paintjobs for sale.
Moksa Elodie
Hijo de la Luna
#85 - 2016-12-20 14:24:04 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


Those are no gifts and FD doesn't calls them gifts. It's a "Festive Countdown" with time-limited paintjobs for sale.



I stand corrected, but in the initial email from FD it states nowhere that you have to pay for them until you go to the website.

Though it doesn't state they are gifts either, the email is laid out like an advert calender which at the time gave me the impression they were free.
Othran
Route One
#86 - 2016-12-20 14:32:53 UTC
The only problem with the 15% discount "gift" is that its only USA players who will use it - unless you're real life rich (and pretty dumb with it).

The cost of shipping ANYTHING from the CCP "Store" to anywhere in the world APART from the USA normally exceeds the cost of the item. I remember (long ago) thinking about ordering one of the ship models but when I got to the checkout it was going to cost over $100 to ship!

Also CCP ship to the rest of the world using swimming donkeys or something. A friend actually did order a limited edition ship model and it took 5 weeks for the item to reach UK customs. That's 5 weeks from the item being shipped.

Not really a whinge, more a "what the **** is the point of this for anyone except Americans?" post Blink
Moksa Elodie
Hijo de la Luna
#87 - 2016-12-20 14:40:46 UTC
It looks like CCP has given everyone 300 AUR at some point recently, which could be today's 2nd gift
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#88 - 2016-12-20 14:45:13 UTC
Moksa Elodie wrote:
It looks like CCP has given everyone 300 AUR at some point recently, which could be today's 2nd gift


They have? I'll have to go check my wallet.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2016-12-20 14:47:54 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Moksa Elodie wrote:
It looks like CCP has given everyone 300 AUR at some point recently, which could be today's 2nd gift


They have? I'll have to go check my wallet.


I'm getting a beret for my alt Milana.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Milana Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
#90 - 2016-12-20 14:48:42 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Moksa Elodie wrote:
It looks like CCP has given everyone 300 AUR at some point recently, which could be today's 2nd gift


They have? I'll have to go check my wallet.


I'm getting a beret for my alt Milana.


\o/
Princess Adhara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2016-12-20 15:03:27 UTC
Hahaha 15% discount as a gift, nice joke. Have the Ferengi bought CCP?

When do we get the real gift?
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#92 - 2016-12-20 15:09:45 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Moksa Elodie wrote:
It looks like CCP has given everyone 300 AUR at some point recently, which could be today's 2nd gift


They have? I'll have to go check my wallet.


I'm getting a beret for my alt Milana.


A Raspberry Beret? Cool

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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
Seventh Sanctum.
#93 - 2016-12-20 15:09:52 UTC
15%disc. - rly? haha :)
Yasmin Shai
Protomonolithic
#94 - 2016-12-20 15:51:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Yasmin Shai
Princess Adhara wrote:
Hahaha 15% discount as a gift, nice joke. Have the Ferengi bought CCP?

When do we get the real gift?


Lol! Indeed.
and yarp...I feel offended as a non-USA citizen: shipping costs to Europe that exceed more than half the costs of a product?
Gift? It actually sounds more like discrimination.
Little calculation here:

Product: Mug 9.00 dollars
Shipping costs 22.50 -> 250% of the amount
Product: Mug 7.65 with 15% discount
Shipping costs 22.50 -> 294% of the amount

Products: Mug + Hoodie = 49 dollars
Shipping costs 34.50 -> 70% of the amount
Products: Mug + Hoodie = 41.65 with 15% discount
Shipping costs 34.50 -> 83% of the amount

It's not only discrimination, but also treating your non-USA players as utterly morons. Or CCP indeed has been bought by Ferengi :D
Free shipping would have been more like a "gift" imho.
Thak Dallocort
Rogues and Destitutes
#95 - 2016-12-20 15:56:32 UTC
Wow. They've totally made it on to SCROOGE list with this one.

To top it off this looms a bit on heavy on our future.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-09/eve-online-owners-said-to-weigh-game-maker-sale-after-approaches

Fallere Dallocort
Rogues and Destitutes
#96 - 2016-12-20 15:59:18 UTC
Could be why CCP is trying to sell of current merchandise.


Thak Dallocort wrote:
Wow. They've totally made it on to SCROOGE list with this one.

To top it off this looms a bit on heavy on our future.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-09/eve-online-owners-said-to-weigh-game-maker-sale-after-approaches


Balabhadra Das
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#97 - 2016-12-20 16:37:23 UTC
Confirmed 300 Aurm.

I brought a Rifter skin on sale.

Sold it for 20m ISK.

:D
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#98 - 2016-12-20 17:43:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
I knew it!
There was probably aurum token in the unreleased 7th box (this one from database) and they have predicted that everyone would make an alt for it, like for those boosters. So they had to give it out in some other way.

There is 300 Aurum token in database and in game files.

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Yasmin Shai
Protomonolithic
#99 - 2016-12-20 18:21:37 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
I knew it!
There was probably aurum token in the unreleased 7th box (this one from database) and they have predicted that everyone would make an alt for it, like for those boosters. So they had to give it out in some other way.

There is 300 Aurum token in database and in game files.


that's been there for a while tho...during this festive "give away" thingy...
Jolie Cosima
LightWind Industries
#100 - 2016-12-20 18:34:43 UTC
Why do you guys complain about not getting something?... EVE is our second life away from the physical world, I get what I want with what I got at the time.

CCP is still giving out good free stuff, whether you claim it not to be. Do you not like free ship skins?... maybe not like free apparel?... maybe there were people that collected those items in the EVE store and they gave them a chance to get them by providing a discount?...

I do like fashion, whether for my alt or for my ship, so I really do appreciate the skins and apparel.