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Bounty Hunting

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Max Milenium
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-12-15 17:15:54 UTC
Hi,
I've been playing EVE for about 3 weeks now and I completed the tutorial and the military career mission. I would like to enter the bounty hunting career in the game but I don't know where to start:

I have 2 corvettes, 2 Tristans, 1 Venture and a Catalyst. U would like to find a corp that would be able to help me learn basic PVP techniques and how I could get ISK from hunting bouties. I understand that I would probably have to start on frigates and corvettes as I cannot afford to replace my Catalyst.

It would be really great if someone could help me find a corp that I could start bounty hunting in.

Thank you!
Keno Skir
#2 - 2016-12-15 17:46:04 UTC
Bounty hunting isn't what you think it is, it's a bit broken tbh. With that said YOU as an alpha can make ISK from PvP Pirate

On my phone at the mo but I'd be happy to help out with your PvP interests. If interested drop me an eve mail with a little about yourself and your play style etc. I'll send you across some ships to lose once we work out some fits.

Fly dangerous o/
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2016-12-15 17:57:27 UTC
Confirming, bounty hunters aren't a serious thing.
The closest thing to it would be whit I do wich is targeted and direct mercenaries (see link in Sig for more details).
But even that's a little (read a lot) screwy at the moment and definitely not a great place for a newbro to begin his PvP career.
Waaaaaaaaaay too much patience, blue balls and alt play to be appealing.

Goo have some fun shooting innocent folk in the face , when you get the hang of that then think about hunting wolves
Memphis Baas
#4 - 2016-12-15 18:44:38 UTC
Bounty-hunting isn't a thing in the game because being a bounty-hunter doesn't give you any special license to disable the Concord response or avoid the normal PVP rules. So as a result, the marks can hide in high-sec and behind Concord.

That said, you CAN develop the skills to be a successful PVP'er, and take up contracts to kill people who **** off other people. Build a reputation for being good, get paid more. Build standings with some locator agents so you can track down where people are.

Bounties should be contracts, IMO (well, they already can be; maybe CCP can make it easier to select a specific character's corpse as the contract item to be received).
Bargain Benny
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-12-15 21:53:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Bargain Benny
So no one has quite explained why Bounty Hunting doesn't really work as a career choice in Eve yet. I will try my best.

Since we are immortal capsuleers, the bounty system can't tie the reward system to the death of the bountied character or the collection and submission of their corpse. There's simply nothing to stop that Wanted person from getting themselves killed by friends (or more likely, an alt) and collecting on their own bounty.

In order to circumvent this, the bounty is rewarded based on the value of the Wanted person's ship when it is destroyed. And upon destruction, you will only get 20% of the total value of the destroyed property. Often, trying to locate the target and catch them while they're in a valuable ship is incredibly inefficient in terms of making ISK, and there's a very real possibility that you will simply end up a corpse in the vacuum at the end of said encounter. Collecting on bounties usually ends up being something you accidentally do when engaging in regular PvP.

And, as another player mentioned, you do not get special privileges in terms of Crimewatch reaction when you are hunting a bounty. Unless you have an active killright on them, or they have recently engaged in naughtiness, or your corporation is at war with that player's corporation, shooting them in hisec will likely result in your getting CONCORD'd. You could go ahead and say "screw it, I'm gonna make it work for me", and give it your best shot. But most people don't find it worth the time, and in fact the placement of bounties is often a sign of affection or irritation. Some people like being bountied just because they like that Wanted poster on their portrait.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#6 - 2016-12-16 14:09:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Donnachadh
Bargain Benny wrote:
So no one has quite explained why Bounty Hunting doesn't really work as a career choice in Eve yet. I will try my best.

Since we are immortal capsuleers, the bounty system can't tie the reward system to the death of the bountied character or the collection and submission of their corpse. There's simply nothing to stop that Wanted person from getting themselves killed by friends (or more likely, an alt) and collecting on their own bounty.

In order to circumvent this, the bounty is rewarded based on the value of the Wanted person's ship when it is destroyed. And upon destruction, you will only get 20% of the total value of the destroyed property. Often, trying to locate the target and catch them while they're in a valuable ship is incredibly inefficient in terms of making ISK, and there's a very real possibility that you will simply end up a corpse in the vacuum at the end of said encounter. Collecting on bounties usually ends up being something you accidentally do when engaging in regular PvP.

And, as another player mentioned, you do not get special privileges in terms of Crimewatch reaction when you are hunting a bounty. Unless you have an active killright on them, or they have recently engaged in naughtiness, or your corporation is at war with that player's corporation, shooting them in hisec will likely result in your getting CONCORD'd. You could go ahead and say "screw it, I'm gonna make it work for me", and give it your best shot. But most people don't find it worth the time, and in fact the placement of bounties is often a sign of affection or irritation. Some people like being bountied just because they like that Wanted poster on their portrait.

Sorry but you missed the ONLY reason why bounty hunting as a career is not and likely never will be viable in this game. That one thing is the silly notion that we need to be able to place a useless bounty on anyone at anytime simply because we want to. Remove this and tie the ability to place a bounty to a criminal action in the game and all of the problems and limitations you mention here are easy to overcome.

I actually have some hope that new players like the OP may help drive CCP towards a complete rethink of the entire bounty system in this game.
Ronnie Rose
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2017-02-12 03:01:26 UTC
Yes the Bounty system in this game is pointless, especially when folks hide behind CONCORD and still misbehave. I think it's ironic CONCORD sends a person a notice a bounty that is placed on them, but then will kill the aggressor in Hisec should someone act on that bounty.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#8 - 2017-02-12 03:35:13 UTC
Faction warfare might be a good place for you, a ton of new players get started in FW and t1 frig/destroyer/cruiser is pretty common in FW lowsec. And you can make some money while pvping. I'm assuming there will be some corps to help you get started out there too.

Bounties are just kinda silly and I have nothing to really say about them, any changes seem to either add or remove too many rules and leave a completely broken system.

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Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#9 - 2017-02-12 07:13:20 UTC
If you want to be a mercenary, there's plenty of ways to get paid to kill people. If an industrial corporation gets wardecced, you lend them your PVP help at a price. Or if someone has a high bounty on them, you could potentially hunt that person down and try to kill them while they are in an expensive ship. You will get paid 20% of the value of their ship, and you'll get some of the loot that's inside the wreck.

Is it cost efficient? Well, no not really. But if it's ~*FUN*~ for you, then by all means go balls deep on that content!
Haru'kai Vidaraltyr
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2017-02-12 11:10:31 UTC
As several others have noted, bounty hunting does not really exist as a meaningful profession in game.

The nearest to it would be mercenary work - which is quite diverse in itself. I would recommend you look up Mercenary Academy, which is a new player corporation that teaches PvP with a view to skilled pilots graduating into Mercenary Coalition - perhaps the most professional and certainly biggest mercenary group. (The size means there are lots of interesting contracts - the downside of the mercenary lifestyle is that contracts can be few and far between, and as Ralph notes, smaller specialists will often require high skill levels).

If this doesn't appeal, I suggest you join one of the larger null-sec new player corporations and get a wide range of PvP experience before choosing your path. The advantage here is that they have good training regimes and usually lots of free entry level ships for you to lose happily, as well as excellent opportunities to build that bank balance in rich space, while learning the ropes of PvP.

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