EVE New Citizens Q&A

if we go back 8 years to Dec 21 2008 we get 43,697 as the record for players in game in 2008, makes me believe there were more than 60k accounts. Although back then I could plex an account for ~4mil/day, if I could plex for 4m/day I'd probably have a few extra alts going right now. Then again now I have characters with way more SP so I don't need as many alts either. Looking at other years it looks like 60k was pretty rare and only happened a handful of times.

Overall the alpha limitations seem pretty fair, I'd like to see a few tweaks but hey that's eve, stuff always needs tweaking

hello guys. i played eve really hardcore from 2003 to 2010 then finally quit since i saw it chewing my life away. Now i saw the alpha stuffz and said why not, ill give it a go....

so far my alpha experience is that i only have motivation to log in on the 2 accounts i made to put skills into training...what im really wondering is... why would an alpha have a 2x slower training time? is seems like its bait ccp made ...if you sub you train up 2 times faster blabla so sub right now... because for me the plan is to get some skills first to actually start playing the game properly....so now i need what, 6 months to train up the full skills of alpha and then maybe think of a sub? why not speed up the tempo....i might resub 3 months earlier if i maxed out my alpha skills faster, plus i would explore the game again much faster too and keep interest in it more since im getting more toys faster....kinda feels like a 2x slower training for alphas backfires a bit here....and especially for returning players that have basically seen it all in eve already....

second, and i kinda support the op's idea....15€ per month is a bit steep for a noob account....i like the idea that you could pay like 3€ per month and get the lets say 7 mil sp package...5€ for 13mil sp etc etc....with 15€ being the full skillset of the game if you want it....at low skillspoints it feels like the game is just not worth the full subscription when your running around in your little destroyer for 4 months with your d!ck out playing with your colouring pens with the other kids in the kindergarten...

i always thought this game would go bananas in popularity, population and overall fun factor if the subscription was like 40-50% cheaper in general...and i know many others that would still play it if it was, if nothing else to skill up their chars...but that always means that they are sooner or later back in the game...this way alot of people just quit since its not worth it being a part time eve subscriber.

There is only one real thing I would like to see in between Alpha and Omega clones. And that is a price point that is less than omega but lets you access multiple empire types of ships.


Before you jump in with "wanting more for free" hear me out. I, like many others, returned because of the alpha update. I couldn't afford a monthly sub long enough to re-learn the entire damn game, but I have every intention of going omega once I do and once I'm able to supplement my sub spending with a PLEX every now and then. But here is my problem: I did not always learn to fly the same ships and use the same weapons as my empire. I have an account that is entirely cross-trained...and is now useless.


Also wouldn't it help to lure new players further into the game if you let them try out different ships and different weapon types? Sure you say "roll another empire", but no established player will and no new player wants to lose everything they worked for just so they can see what a caldari frig is like compared to amarr.

Some sort of mini-plex that only expanded the variety that new and returning players could experience, but did not unlock anything that an alpha could not get by re-rolling repeatedly.

I know I'd gladly throw a couple dollars at CCP to be able to have a bit more variety with no noticeable difference in what I can and can't do in the game.

why do you guys talk about 10$ while i see 15€/usd as a price tag

I disagree. The amount of emails I kept getting for me to come back meant that CCP was hoping for at least some of us to come back. I think letting me re-assign skill points would have led me to find out the limits of Alpha sooner rather than later. As it is, I am not ready to sub because I haven't found any showstoppers from me having fun as an alpha. I think if I haven't drifted off by the time I reach the Alpha's upper limits. I might subscribe again.

For now, I have sold off most equipment and ships that I can no longer use. So far, I miss using my salvage drones the most. It is really an odd mix. I can still fly a Navy Comet, venture, and vexor but salvaging the ships is now a bit more of chore than it was before.

The sub price drops if you pay more up front (I essentially pay $10 a month because I bought a 12 month subscription up front).

And while you are correct in that you will not pay more than what an item is worth, I think your perception on how much a massive, multi-faceted MMO is worth is more than a bit skewed.

I find it fascinating how people will drop 50 to 60 USD on a game with only about 15 hours of playable content.
Granted, you can keep running the same content over and over at your leisure... but it is still the same content.

Then those same people will drop another 30 USD on another 5 hours of DLC content. And run that into the ground for a year or two until the next edition comes out... at which point they drop another 50 to 60 USD.


What you pay here for EVE is the equivalent of a face-sized burrito per month. Or a cinema ticket.
Really think about that.


And no... there is no "later in the game" or "endgame" in EVE.

Skills and ships simply give you more options and makes things a little easier / more comfortable. Nothing more or less.

If you want to go out and do something, DO IT. The game is not mechanically holding you back.

How many hours/month do you play?

I was trying to think how a "premium" level might work in eve (for those who've paid before but are now alpha).

The only thing I could think of that seemed reasonable (and not leading to farmable alpha-alts) was to have those who've subbed have access to ALL the alpha skills of all the races. So... no PI, nothing above cruisers... but you could fly Amarr/Gallente/Mini/Caldari cruisers if you've subbed an account in the past and let it lapse to alpha.

read my post above

Then bio-mass your char and leave the game. Tired of listening to whinny Alpha's wanting more for less.