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I got obilterated + lost over a billion in implants.. Man its gameover

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Salvos Rhoska
#21 - 2016-12-12 20:23:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Yeah, I am "that guy".

Deal with it.Its not illegal.

Your story stinks of half-truths.

Headful of expensive exploration implants yet you claim you can fly a Rattlesnake.
Explorer hunting fit on your Astero, with mobile depot, but no travel fit in cargo.
T1 Relic and Data Analyzers.

You set out wanting to hunt/pwn Herons and the Cheetahs you claimed you feared so much (despite their complete PvP ineptitude),
You didnt check the map for potential LS camps, and didnt fit or cargo a travel fit.
Then you got blapped and podded with your implants, within seconds of heading through your first LS gate.

You expected/fit to hunt defenseless Explorers.
You wanted PvP.
Well, you got it, right in the face.

Im glad if its true you are ok with that. But I dont believe it. I think you are just trying to spin this whilst leaving out important details.
And at worst, hoping someone will send you isk to reimburse you for your "courageous" efforts and attitude.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#22 - 2016-12-12 20:30:22 UTC
OP, you need to ignore that guy, he's...."not right" in the head and you can see that by how he's making up stuff out of thin air..

The rest of us get what you're saying. Glad you are enjoying the game.
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2016-12-12 20:38:45 UTC
Tremaine Holden wrote:
Spent a ton of isk fitting up a stratios, the time invested into the research..and etc took up most of my time. I didn't even stand a chance. I was so devastated after being killed yesterday I lost maybe close to a billion isk that I've been saving up. I literally stopped playing yesterday, just logged off.


I felt like a failure.



But it felt GREAT. They even pod killed me lol. Can't wait to get back in and try again. I'll probably avoid using an stratios. At the same time I don't.

I'm literally addicted to WH lifestyle.

Theres so many corporations based out in the sticks (Wormhole territory), I met a ton of great people during my stealth escapades, roaming WH to WH, you never know who you're going to run into. But I got greedy, I stepped out to high sec, then jumped through a gate to low sec hoping to find a potential kill and ran into a gate camp got owned. Which made me realize I need to PVP a bit more.

I'm gonna stick to more..inexpensive routes. Probably a vexor since I have superb drone skills (t2 everything).

I realize that pretty soon using t1 cruisers and stuff isn't going to do it for me, I need ways to obtaining large amounts of isk over a few hours each day so I can blow it on weekend pleasure, any ideas?


I feel you man, i lost a shuttle once. It cost me like 200k isk, and it is freely availeable in Jita, but it was so shocking that i had to take a break from PVP for like a year.
Tremaine Holden
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2016-12-12 20:43:27 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Yeah, I am "that guy".

Deal with it.Its not illegal.

Your story stinks of half-truths.

Headful of expensive exploration implants yet you claim you can fly a Rattlesnake.
Explorer hunting fit on your Astero, with mobile depot, but no travel fit in cargo.
T1 Relic and Data Analyzers.

You set out wanting to hunt/pwn Herons and the Cheetahs you claimed you feared so much (despite their complete PvP ineptitude),
You didnt check the map for potential LS camps, and didnt fit or cargo a travel fit.
Then you got blapped and podded with your implants, within seconds of heading through your first LS gate.

You expected/fit to hunt defenseless Explorers.
You wanted PvP.
Well, you got it, right in the face.

Im glad if its true you are ok with that. But I dont believe it. I think you are just trying to spin this whilst leaving out important details.
And at worst, hoping someone will send you isk to reimburse you for your "courageous" efforts and attitude.




I'm sorry you grew up parentless sir.

Eve isn't about flying the biggest ship, or having the biggest guns. It's about finding something you love to do and doing it better. Gallente born. Guristas driven.

Gila "Amadeus"

Next in line: Rattlesnake

Salvos Rhoska
#25 - 2016-12-12 20:54:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Tremaine Holden wrote:
I need ways to obtaining large amounts of isk over a few hours each day so I can blow it on weekend pleasure, any ideas?


Your Rattlesnake can handle just about anything regarding PvE profits.
But Im sure you already know that.

Im not buying any of this.
Imo you are phishing for donations.
I know that scam, Ive earned some small profit on it myself.

You made a series of critical mistakes and lost a headful of implants worth more than your ship/cargo, in your attempt to hunt explorers.

If you feel great, fine. But all of this stinks, especially when it ends up in a request of how to earn large amounts of isk in a few hours.

Ill give you the benefit of the doubt, and as others have said, go join Incursion fleets.
Im sure you will get the whole fleet killed in no time.
Tremaine Holden
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2016-12-12 21:09:18 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Tremaine Holden wrote:
I need ways to obtaining large amounts of isk over a few hours each day so I can blow it on weekend pleasure, any ideas?


Your Rattlesnake can handle just about anything regarding PvE profits.
But Im sure you already know that.

Im not buying any of this.

You made a series of critical mistakes and lost a headful of implants worth more than your ship/cargo, in your attempt to hunt explorers.

If you feel great, fine. But all of this stinks, especially when it ends up in a request of how to earn large amounts of isk in a few hours.

Ill give you the benefit of the doubt, and as others have said, go join Incursion fleets.
Im sure you will get the whole fleet killed in no time.





Why you keep focusing on the implants man and they weren't even all that, come on mid grade? Like dam dude, find a new topic to stroke your fake online representation of being such a glib, know it all, when obviously you're just a mouth breather with nothing better to do than probe around instigating things that have nothing to do with the relevancy of what's going on.

I made this thread in the morning before work. So yeah, move around or something. Its just ISK man. its a virtual currency. If I wanted a few billions I could easily come out of pocket and buy 3 or 4 plexes.
But, like the first time I ever bought a plex to use a currency. I asked in help chat, verbatim, "Will this ruin the game for me?" Why? Its TOO much money, too fast. Similar to playing The SIms and using cheat codes for simoleons rather than just focusing on getting your sims higher paying careers and slowly building your home. I never use cheats in that game, but my SO will happily magically print herself out a few millions to build the biggest home on the block. I don't find satisfaction in that. At all. I've never once begged for isk.

Damn bro you done came in the thread and sucked away all the fun and laughs. Don't you have a cat to rub?

Eve isn't about flying the biggest ship, or having the biggest guns. It's about finding something you love to do and doing it better. Gallente born. Guristas driven.

Gila "Amadeus"

Next in line: Rattlesnake

Salvos Rhoska
#27 - 2016-12-12 21:22:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Long story short:
-You figured you would hunt explorers in NS.(Not mentioned in your initial post, ascertained from killboard)
-You fit/cargo accordingly, plus T1 relic/data analyzers for opportunity.
-Depot, but no travel fit. No research on the route.
-Got slammed after passing your first LS gate.
-Lost a fail fit Astero and a pod full of expensive implants worth more than your entire ship.
-Post about how happy you are about the result of your half-truth OP.
-Insult anyone who points out your stupidity, lack of research or contingencies.
-Ask for info on how to earn large amounts of isk in a few hours.

Thats about it, right?

Do you expect a medal? Some encouragement isk donations?

You wanted PvP, and you got it.
Tremaine Holden
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2016-12-12 21:31:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tremaine Holden
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Long story short:
-You figured you would hunt explorers in NS.
-You fit/cargo accordingly, plus T1 relic/data analyzers for opportunity.
-Depot, but no travel fit. No research on the route.
-Got slammed after passing your first LS gate.
-Lost a fail fit Astero and a pod full of expensive implants.

Thats about it, right?

Do you expect a medal? Some encouragement isk donations?

You wanted PvP, and you got it.



Originally, I had an astero which served me well, which as ive mentioned was a loot and scoot boat. It did that very well. Then I thought, well the stratios might be better and I can probably /kill/ someone in it too. So I researched a hunter-killer build, then I stumbled upon stunt's fit, or something like it. My original fit on it was pretty close but I had actual turrets on it instead of Neuts. There was a guy in Local who kept telling me " use neuts man use neuts" then he showed me a video of him in a strat that was able to take on a bunch of people solo. I altered the fit to use active repairs only. After I fitted the neuts hours later it was finally ready.

I fitted my ship as I intended to be in WH for a long time. I got impatient went outside when I didn't need to and decided to try and get to a LS area on my own and fell into, which I assumed would be there, a gate camp. I took that risk anyways.
The depot was in there for sites. To clarify, I NEVER INTENDED TO USE IT IN NS or LS. Stop bringing that up.


You got it almost right, everything after point 2 was wrong, but hey the effort though? But you're getting annoying with the constant assumptions of wanting isk donations. If you want me to be one ( a beggar) then fulfill your own self proclaimed prophecy -- which you're desperately trying to produce from me -- and send me over some isk, if that will make you shut up and get off that topic.

Eve isn't about flying the biggest ship, or having the biggest guns. It's about finding something you love to do and doing it better. Gallente born. Guristas driven.

Gila "Amadeus"

Next in line: Rattlesnake

Salvos Rhoska
#29 - 2016-12-12 22:06:39 UTC
Ok, Ill take that offer.

Ill send you 50mil if you do not post again in this thread for 7 days from this moment.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2016-12-13 00:26:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Someone lost an 11bil isk pod with high grade ascendancies to CODE. yesterday. He was mad af.

Kinda like how Salvos is on a good day.

Anyway, OP, you'd be best to ignore Salvos. I've seen you around in help channel, and you may have seen me. In fact, I know you have, because that's the exact fit I criticised for being active, and shared with you a buffer alternative with a demonstration of mine in action as well. I hope you'll reconsider using the one I shared with you when you get right back into it. Good to see you use the neuts instead of the lasers, at least.

Anyway, all's fair in love and EVE. Just don't make silly deals with Salvos. Or, do, and then post on the forums anyway when he hands over the isk.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Bivk Dvtt
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2016-12-13 02:40:47 UTC
Tremaine Holden wrote:
Spent a ton of isk fitting up a stratios, the time invested into the research..and etc took up most of my time. I didn't even stand a chance. I was so devastated after being killed yesterday I lost maybe close to a billion isk that I've been saving up. I literally stopped playing yesterday, just logged off.


I felt like a failure.



But it felt GREAT. They even pod killed me lol. Can't wait to get back in and try again. I'll probably avoid using an stratios. At the same time I don't.

I'm literally addicted to WH lifestyle.

Theres so many corporations based out in the sticks (Wormhole territory), I met a ton of great people during my stealth escapades, roaming WH to WH, you never know who you're going to run into. But I got greedy, I stepped out to high sec, then jumped through a gate to low sec hoping to find a potential kill and ran into a gate camp got owned. Which made me realize I need to PVP a bit more.

I'm gonna stick to more..inexpensive routes. Probably a vexor since I have superb drone skills (t2 everything).

I realize that pretty soon using t1 cruisers and stuff isn't going to do it for me, I need ways to obtaining large amounts of isk over a few hours each day so I can blow it on weekend pleasure, any ideas?


Buy more PLEX :DDD
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#32 - 2016-12-13 03:35:45 UTC
Tremaine Holden wrote:
Spent a ton of isk fitting up a stratios, the time invested into the research..and etc took up most of my time. I didn't even stand a chance. I was so devastated after being killed yesterday I lost maybe close to a billion isk that I've been saving up. I literally stopped playing yesterday, just logged off.


I felt like a failure.



But it felt GREAT. They even pod killed me lol. Can't wait to get back in and try again. I'll probably avoid using an stratios. At the same time I don't.

I'm literally addicted to WH lifestyle.

Theres so many corporations based out in the sticks (Wormhole territory), I met a ton of great people during my stealth escapades, roaming WH to WH, you never know who you're going to run into. But I got greedy, I stepped out to high sec, then jumped through a gate to low sec hoping to find a potential kill and ran into a gate camp got owned. Which made me realize I need to PVP a bit more.

I'm gonna stick to more..inexpensive routes. Probably a vexor since I have superb drone skills (t2 everything).

I realize that pretty soon using t1 cruisers and stuff isn't going to do it for me, I need ways to obtaining large amounts of isk over a few hours each day so I can blow it on weekend pleasure, any ideas?




Somebody posted a YouTube of your meltdown after the loss.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#33 - 2016-12-13 03:43:12 UTC
just FYI:

If you're going to splurge on a set of fancy schmancy pirate implants, make sure you also get the Omega. It would do a lot more for you than that Astrometric Pinpointing slot six.

I suggest you have a read of Feyd's thoughtful advice, especially with regards to getting ones pod out.

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura

Toobo
Project Fruit House
#34 - 2016-12-13 04:49:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Toobo
Cool story (bro). Nah meme aside, seriously. This is what I like about EVE PVP. You remember your kills and losses (and great escapes) for very long time, that sometimes even I surprise myself I remember a fight in so much detail after all these years (sometimes my memory gets a bit clouded, but when I check the KM again it all comes back - that's why I like KM, they are like photo albums heh).

A bit srtrange though you died in a Stratios with covert-cop cloak to a low sec camp. I can imagine scenarios where you could end up in very unlucky position coming off the gate cloak after the jump, or just bad timing for lag that gets you target locked, or you warp to a gate in a wrong way and get smart bombed, but in LS where they have no bubbles a covert-op cloak ship should be able to go through gate camps 99.99% of the time, and no, you do not do MWD+cloak in LS, if your cloak is a covert ops cloak, you re-cloak as soon as you lose the gate cloak just warp cloaked. Unless your ship aligns extremely slow for some reason, it's very unusual to lose your ship in low sec gate camp when you can warp cloaked.

So I think this part is probably something you could consider and improve on too? I'm curious how you got tackled in the first place, whether it was just bad luck of the position coming off the gate cloak, or if you've made some mistake there which you didn't have to. Figuring that out will also be a good experience for you.


Just to add: I have 'decloaked' some cloaky transports at LS gates before, using the usual 'approach in that direction' thing, but mostly because I got lucky and I saw them decloak pretty close to me, close enough for me to get there before their ship can align and warp out cloaked. If they come out of gate cloak and they are like 20km away from me then I still try sometimes, but naver had real success there.

Having said that, I caught quite a few industrials trying to use MWD+ (regular)cloak trrick. They have to sit there for quite long time for the MWD cycle to finish, and although I won't say I can do this 'reliably' as I know quite a few dictor/inty pilots can do this very well in null, but I can pull it off every now and then.

Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!

Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#35 - 2016-12-13 04:59:03 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Someone lost an 11bil isk pod with high grade ascendancies to CODE. yesterday. He was mad af.


oh wow, i just went and looked that up. losing a pod in hisec like that is hilarious.

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura

Toobo
Project Fruit House
#36 - 2016-12-13 05:17:22 UTC
Well on the other hand these things make me ignore zkill comments. I once saw Chribba's HG ascendancy pod loss mail, and trolls get on zkill to post 'noob', lol no poor.

HS or wherever, there are reasons why someone may fly something pretty expensivie, but on zkill commenta people don't think about that. And I bet for every loss mail that looks really stupid there is some understandable story behind it, and people who lose billions in ships/pods can generally afford it.

Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!

Iain Cariaba
#37 - 2016-12-13 05:25:52 UTC
Came in expecting tear filled rant.

Left pleasantly surprised.

How to make isk fast? Highsec incursions.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#38 - 2016-12-13 05:49:39 UTC
Toobo wrote:
I once saw Chribba's HG ascendancy pod loss mail, and trolls get on zkill to post 'noob', lol no poor.


lolz.

now, if memory serves correctly, someone (PL possibly?) had to pull a Snuff and offline a tower to get that kill. iirc: Chribba himself then acted as the third party on the sale of his corpse to a collector.

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#39 - 2016-12-13 07:03:32 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Posting in veiled begging thread.

"I was foolish and lost a bil due to more implants in my head than the combined value of my badly fit Astero + loot in cargo. Im such a noob tihihihi. But look at how brave I am and sucking it up (please send me encouragement/support isk!)"

I checked your killboard.

Your fit and cargo contents indicates you where hunting explorers.
You attempted to pass through an LS entry point in that fit, without a travel fit, though you had a mobile depot onboard.
I expect you didnt check the map for indication of camps either.

Then you lost your pod with a headful of implants worth more than your ship, fittings and cargo.

And what is this nonsense about Cheetahs bearing down on you. They are singularly the most incapable PvP ships among cov-ops, and have zero chance vs an Astero.

Im glad you shared your story, but I think you only shared part of it.
Im glad you apparently felt great about it, but I doubt it.

Im not buying any of this, except the fact you lost your headful of implants and an explorer hunting Astero fit cos you didnt fit for travel or check the map before passing through a LS entry gate.



I forget when it was the last time I have seen an exploration ship with tackle. You may be onto something.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Tremaine Holden
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2016-12-13 14:36:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tremaine Holden
Toobo wrote:
Cool story (bro). Nah meme aside, seriously. This is what I like about EVE PVP. You remember your kills and losses (and great escapes) for very long time, that sometimes even I surprise myself I remember a fight in so much detail after all these years (sometimes my memory gets a bit clouded, but when I check the KM again it all comes back - that's why I like KM, they are like photo albums heh).

A bit srtrange though you died in a Stratios with covert-cop cloak to a low sec camp. I can imagine scenarios where you could end up in very unlucky position coming off the gate cloak after the jump, or just bad timing for lag that gets you target locked, or you warp to a gate in a wrong way and get smart bombed, but in LS where they have no bubbles a covert-op cloak ship should be able to go through gate camps 99.99% of the time, and no, you do not do MWD+cloak in LS, if your cloak is a covert ops cloak, you re-cloak as soon as you lose the gate cloak just warp cloaked. Unless your ship aligns extremely slow for some reason, it's very unusual to lose your ship in low sec gate camp when you can warp cloaked.

So I think this part is probably something you could consider and improve on too? I'm curious how you got tackled in the first place, whether it was just bad luck of the position coming off the gate cloak, or if you've made some mistake there which you didn't have to. Figuring that out will also be a good experience for you.


Just to add: I have 'decloaked' some cloaky transports at LS gates before, using the usual 'approach in that direction' thing, but mostly because I got lucky and I saw them decloak pretty close to me, close enough for me to get there before their ship can align and warp out cloaked. If they come out of gate cloak and they are like 20km away from me then I still try sometimes, but naver had real success there.

Having said that, I caught quite a few industrials trying to use MWD+ (regular)cloak trrick. They have to sit there for quite long time for the MWD cycle to finish, and although I won't say I can do this 'reliably' as I know quite a few dictor/inty pilots can do this very well in null, but I can pull it off every now and then.



I got owned at the gate because they were expecting me most likely. When I made the decision to warp there, my intuition told me not to and just get back in the WH, but I proceeded anyways. When I made it through the gate, the camp started moving to where I was so they knew where I was anyways. I tried to MWD and stealth but I was insta locked and you know how it goes after that.


Speaking of so, the MWD trick got me out of every gate camp I was in with my Astero. However that ship I fitted to be a loot and scoot, the strat not as much.


I got my Astero refitted last night, and thanks to the help of a poster here Remiel Pollard, I was able to save a few good decent fits for PVP in the near future.

Moving forward, this defeat has taught me a lot about eve. As well as the people I've spoken too. I realize now that there is a lot of mechanics I need to get down before I can get into PVP first and I acknowledge that now. More importantly learning to prioritize targets, maximize resources by not over-ticking toggles, and not having a fail fit stratios. With every loss comes a gain, I guess I was trying to do too much at once so ive decided to hit the WH for the next few weeks doing relics and building my wealth so I can begin to afford my other projects. Not really tripping off the implants or anything it can all be regained in the near future. I'm returning with a better perspective than I did before my quite explosive encounter..

Eve isn't about flying the biggest ship, or having the biggest guns. It's about finding something you love to do and doing it better. Gallente born. Guristas driven.

Gila "Amadeus"

Next in line: Rattlesnake

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