EVE General Discussion

Had heard that they won't shoot you there if you aren't red to them (at least as a general rule - I know individual pirates and anyone roaming through there can do what they want). So I have gone and tried to conduct business there recently.

I have been shot. I've run into gate camps, lost several ships, yadda yadda (not complaining, just explaining). Even just now (5 minutes ago) I ran into a gate camp, complete with interdiction bubble (or whatever it is called). I somehow managed to get away from that one, although I have no idea how (they had Sabres and what not). I think it was just pure luck.

I'm simply trying to figure out how things work is all. One or more of these is true: 1) What I've been told is wrong, and they do shoot anybody and everybody. 2) I don't know what color I am (I'm 'red' but don't know it). 3) I see a lot of independent pirates and PvP'ers operating on their own, doing what they want (basically shooting the place up).

If 1, just tell me the real deal. If 2, tell me how I can ascertain my color (as well as other people's color - my overview just shows grey I think). If 3... that one is kind of weird. How do a couple of independent pirates set up bubble camps over gates and indiscriminately kill whatever they can without the main corps or sov holders coming in and breaking it up, running the people off?

Also, any general advice?

Thanks.

So, it's nullsec space. Free-for-all PVP. The Providence locals promise not to shoot you, as they have a NRDS policy, unless you get on their KOS list.

However, everybody else on the way there + all their enemies and pirates looking for a fight WILL enter their space and WILL shoot you and everyone they can shoot. You're entering a war zone, basically, between the Providence locals and all their neighbors / other PVP'ers looking for a fight, and as a neutral stranger you're just about the last on their list of worries. Between saving your ship and saving their miners or ratters or other members who happen to be in space, they'll go ahead and save their people and leave you to fend for yourself.

So, read their FAQ, get on their intel channels, so that you, too, can see when they start yelling about enemy sighted coming in from x or y direction, and add all of the corporations / alliances listed under section 2 in that FAQ as contacts with blue standings for you, so you'll at least know who the locals are.

But yeah, you can still run into pirates or enemies camping the only 2? 3? routes into the Providence zone. It's not high-sec, there's only a couple paths you can take, and veterans know them.

From high-sec, you have several low-sec (pirate) systems before you even enter 0.0, and then you'll have to look at the map and set it to display Sovereignty, to see where the area that belongs to CVA and their allies begins. Outside that area, and even the border star systems, are probably going to be very active with all sorts of pirates and intruders. Only the core star systems are somewhat safe, because intruders will be announced on intel channels before they get to you.

And even then, wormholes can open and you can find a whole PVP fleet suddenly dumped right into the core zone, from w-space or because the wormhole links to their enemies on the other side of the galaxy map.

Ultimately, NRDS is "not red, don't shoot", not "not red, treat as your long lost best friend."

It's like going on an international vacation, the locals are like Great, another ******* tourist! *fake-smile*

Yup, there's another thread discussing NBSI vs. NRDS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usipm1dMX6M
This was one of the first impressions I had of eve and it made me work up the courage to play this masterpeice that is freakin EVE.

It is possible that the gate camp you got away from was in fact a friendly gate camp that was trying to intercept pirates, and the reason you got "lucky" is because you are not a known pirate and they let you pass.

Never said a single word about 'griefing' or anything else. Just want to know the scoop is all.



I checked the names against the KOS list. They are kill on sight. Also, they did shoot at me, and tried to warp scram me, I just got extremely lucky.

They are also dedicated. More than 5 hours later I saw their camp again just now (complete with bubble), same gate, and one of the guys is sitting on the OTHER side of the gate in Kari, I guess to let his mates know a target is on the way.

Gate camping in battleships in low-sec wasn't the thing that was unheard of to me. Doing it in no-sec where you have no sov and are 'hostile' to the owners of the sov - that's what I thought was strange. Other ships could potentially get away if the 'owners' decide to break up the camp. But seems a battleship would be a big risk.

I used to be on it, but apparently I'm not anymore. Whelp, looks like I have to go blow up some CVA nerds.

TLDR: Provi does not secure their entry/exit points.