EVE General Discussion

Then it should not be hard to take those POCOs through force. It may take a little time but even a solo drone BS can pop a POCO.

Profit? Hahahaha.

That's hilarious. Highsec POCOs don't make profit. Most of them never come even close to earning back the 120 - 200 million ISK they cost.

Profit.....lol

Except, you know, the ones in the vicinity of trade hubs that make billions of isk a week from individual planets.

~15,000 planets in highsec and only a small handful ever makes their costs back.

Most wouldn't even cover the cost of even a trivial upkeep cost if one was implemented.

You have it wrong there, and no one that i see has touched on this yet, so I might as well.

The "Customs code expertise" skillbook still comes in handy because Hisec Pocos have a MANDATORY empire Tax applied to them. I believe this is 10%.

So if I own a hisec POCO, and i set the tax to, say, 7%, the actual user needs to pay 17% tax. With level 5 "customs code expertise", this will be cut down to only 12% tax.

First off, so lets say that anyone can set up any number of pocos on any single planet.

You have to warp, and be in range within 2500 of a POCO to transfer PI materials.

Before, if you already have a PI set up on a planet, all you have to do is open the planetary interaction list, right click, and warp to the customs office.

Now, you need to click to check the info of each POCO to see which one offers the lowest tax, for each planet you have.

Youve just made PI into an even more bigger clickfest than it already is.

Secondly, it would be ugly. Having 10, 15 Pocos on one planet, would make a mess.

Thirdly, warping to planets warps you to the POCO. Which POCO does it warp you to now that there are 5-10?

Fourthly, thats a poor argument to begin with. Why does one entity gain MONOPOLY over an entire structure or region? Why does one entity gain MONOPOLY over an entire moon region? why cant we have 3-4 towers mining the same moon, competing for resources?

Eh, the philosophy behind POCO is to be a kind of government for the planet. You can't make your own government just like that, so a single POCO per planet makes sense.
On the other hand, why assume the whole planet has the same government? Why not install second poco and put troops to the ground so they conquer a bunch of planet and spark a nice war down there. Without suitable military presence on the ground you might even have a POCO up there that doesn't cover any planet area and is therefore useless.

Ignoring rationality behind stuff and looking at game mechanics, POCO has disappointing mechanics compared to say engineering complexes. You can set up another manufacturing station to compete economically (on taxes), or blow them up. Or both. Plus these cost resources to run as well - set and forget is impossible. So I assume POCO will be eventually redesigned to offer more competition at the cost of more effort.

So what do you do with a planet with no pocos active because its rarely used and people didnt want to pay the bills anymore? Or with planets that rarely get used and are not worht the isk?

Let me tell you about a Poco we used to own in hisec. It made, maybe 5 mill a month. There were people who used it, but there werent many. If it were to get taxed, we wouldnt use it anymore. So those people would get screwed. And id reckon this would be true for a lot of hisec systems.

People often go out to low-end systems trying to find cheap pocos and richer amounts of PI mats, and yet they wont be able to, because all the pocos are offline.

What a terrible idea.

Wasn't this the premise for DUST or something? Some sort of planetary war/government military action on behalf of EVE Online PC players? I still think CCP and Sean Murray should collaborate and push something out EVE based.


War Never Changes...

Because CC launches are wildly impractical, to the point that nobody should ever do it. It basically exists to allow mathematically challenged internet-space sovereign citizens feel like they're stigginit to the The Man/POCO owners.

If you can't find a POCO with tax less than the 15% launches will cost you, then you're not even looking. Couple that with the extra time you're going to spend faffing about picking up launches - time you could have used just finding or negotiating a better tax situation - and you'll quickly realize it's an utterly insane non-option.