EVE General Discussion

Here's a reason why multiple competing POCOs on a planet are a bad idea: It would be annoying AF to have to tear down a new troll-POCO every week just to maintain what comes down to chump change in terms of income for a group that can effectively defend a structure. If you want to put up a POCO on a planet, just tear down the existing one. If you cannot do that, you won't be able to defend your new one either. And if you *could* tear it down but don't want to for reasons that don't matter, you could either try and buy it from the owner or convince them to lower the taxes for you one way or another, for example by offering to protect it in the case of an attack. If you are unwilling or unable to do either of those, that's tough luck. Theres no reason to allow you to put up a POCO if you aren't willing to put in any effort.

The flip side of that is that there would likely be no sense in anyone ever paying taxes again, really. Anywhere further than maybe 8 jumps from a hub, nobody would have the time or energy to blap POCOs. Net result is anyone who wants to do PI just goes out a ways and sets up their own POCO, completely eliminating the entire profession of POCO tax collector. They're cheap enough that all but the scrubbiest of scrubs could do this.

This is just more Make-Eve-Easy nonsense from people who don't want to have to contest anything.

That doesn't mesh well with the Supreme NS Overlords Vs. Oppressed HS Commoners narrative, though.

I can understand the sentiment of starting another business in the same economic category, aka setting up another POCO, yet I do agree with others when they say that setting up another will only just mean everyone has one. Setting up another one has zero downside. It doesnt make others more expensive, it only gives the owner isk if people use it and allow zero tax shelters for POCO usage that arent previously allowed under the current formula. Then war deccing another POCO only amounts to added BS for both sides and a cost that means nothing.

Allowing other POCOs on the planet, regardless of how it is implemented, must carry some significant detractors to get those who own it to defend their proprietary first rights to harvest said planet as well as a way to preemptively allow them to block any advance into their primary territory. This can be democratic in that sense, as a group of current owners, or as the sole owner. But atm there is no reason to add more POCO ownership rights that would benefit the entire competitive nature other than solo or small corps being able to undermine everyone else as long as it is fiscally viable, which in HS POCOs case is very slim.

The customs code skill works on POCO. It does this by creating a discount on top of the advertised player assigned rate. Say for instance you find a POCO with 25% tax rate. With Customs Code IV, you will only pay 17%.

Great but year old blog of an experiment/analysis of the subject:

http://evelostfound.blogspot.fi/2015/12/taking-and-owning-pocos-solo.html

Actually you might find in certain areas that the people who own POCO's are the alt corps of hisec war dec mercs and there are agreements between them on POCO ownership. So in fact they do care about them, but as owners... Go and set up an alt corp and then put an alpha toon in it then war dec one of the POCO owners near Jita and Amarr then watch who joins the war. Fun fun fun...

You can export but you cannot import that way.

Each batch can be 500 m3 and the upgrade of the link to the command centre from where you store the stuff needs to be as good as you can get it so it reduces the time that you have to wait around for another load to get to the command centre. The reason why you might not want to do it is the time you spend waiting around to be able to do another launch.

I would not call that compress, more like manufacture to P4, each P4 item is 100 m3 and you have to import from elsewhere to make P4. So a POCO enables you to manufacture P4, as you can only make P4 on Temperate or Barren planets.

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Having read the article I linked, Ive come to consider perhaps Im approaching this from the wrong angle.
I acknowledge that endless POCOs on any planet is not a solution. My point was it chafes me in principle that a single POCO owner can set rates without competition. Violence and buy-out are options, but I dont think they are enough.

What about somekind of POCO upkeep/maintenance?

As the article I linked suggests, there are POCOs apparently perpetually paying into long absent corps wallets.