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How to find solo PvPers

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Tyrana McBitch
Doomheim
#21 - 2016-12-25 03:16:26 UTC
I solo, but I pick my fights. So far so good. It takes some time, but it's worth it. Become the hunter Pirate

Insane.

Draeman Hookah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2017-01-02 20:49:16 UTC
I've also started trying to get into the PvP portion of EVE via Solo roams. First one was last night and it seems like it's a time consumer for sure.

I started in pretty low-key Low-Sec systems as has been recommended and got one engagement but wasn't able to keep him so that was exciting. Going back out again tonight, I'm tempted to make the trek to Amamake but I don't know if it's still the capital of Pirate space that it used to be.

I'm not looking for specifically 1v1 either, I consider myself a bit of an opportunist. But I'm in my "go out and lose 20 ships" phase of the learning process too. Only thing that seemed to work for me was literally jumping planet to planet (Also holding your mouse on the overview while your warping can show you when you zip past people so you get a feel for where they are and where their "safe spot" is. Found that out by accident.
Lucy Callagan
Goryn Clade
#23 - 2017-01-06 22:06:10 UTC
Draeman Hookah wrote:
"go out and lose 20 ships" phase


That's very optimistic,

I lost ~1600 ships on all my chars gathered and i still don't know how to pvp.
ivona fly
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#24 - 2017-01-12 17:59:34 UTC
I never lost a ship in combat.



You are all bads.















i had some blown up but never lost them
xxsmokealotxx
Megacorp 5000 Pro XL
#25 - 2017-01-13 13:30:00 UTC
This kinda falls more into the Tactics side:

Most likely you don't actually want to find the solo PvPers if you're starting out. Because most likely they have done it longer than you and are a lot better at it.

Better bet is to try to lure a non-solo player to come after you and make him think he will have his buddies helps when he catches you.


Or just forget about tactics and attack anything that moves and hope you eventually kill something Pirate
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2017-01-14 08:28:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Its pretty much a waste of time. You can literally go for hours from deep null all the way to empire and you''ll almost never get a 1 v 1. You may find solo players or even a duo to fight but from experience they'll never engage you unless they have overwhelming force.

You will invariably get baited into a fight and a cyno gank, or you'll chase someone down a pipe, they'll be in alliance or corp organizing a suprise party for you and won't stop running till their in range.

One thing I have found that will get you fights that you can sometimes win is to let them gank you in the following ship fit. This loss occurred solo fighting NC. Originally it was one ship, which I killed, it then escalated slowly into 2 maladictions, proteus, 2 sleipnirs, a cynabal, a cerberus, then they dropped an aeon and then a hel. Its a tough ass ship that can kill a few and then gtfo even with extreme amounts of firepower on it. Of course it can't tank an aeon and a hel on top of those other ships so it went down but it took them a good 10 minutes. Drop the cloaking device and put on a decent offensive sub and it would have popped a few more before it died. Super expensive though.

[Tengu, L DOPA's Tengu]
Damage Control II
Republic Fleet Ballistic Control System
Republic Fleet Ballistic Control System
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System

Corelum C-Type 50MN Microwarpdrive
Domination Warp Scrambler
Gist X-Type EM Ward Field
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Thukker Large Cap Battery

'Smokescreen' Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II,Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II,Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II,Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II,Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Oh I also got a few kills with this ship by pretending to do combat sites and let them jump you thinking your a usual fit small shield booster tengu with heavies. If you don't get a bite you can finish the site and go to another, kill two birds with one stone but you'll usually get one if your in someones space. You have to be sneaky.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#27 - 2017-01-14 08:45:17 UTC
Agondray wrote:
they don't exist.

Why do people with no ******* clue feel that they can congribute to threads?

Either you are being sarcastic, in which case you signature applies, or you just have absolutely no idea of reality. Either way, writing your post serves only to confirm your idiocy.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#28 - 2017-01-14 09:01:32 UTC
To quote myself from another thread:


W0lf Crendraven wrote:
So since people everywhere q.q a lot about no solo pvp i decided to test how long it takes to log in, get into a ship and then do some solo pvp and see how long it took me till i got a kill.

So, i logged in (in highsec), jumpcloned to a lowsec system where i had a frigate (a succubus):

I undock with 7 in local in Ardar, theres 4 t1 frigs in space doing stuff but i cant seem to pointpoint them, also theres a svipul hunting me so after warping around for 1 minute or so with the svipul always following me i decide to move on, i jump into the next system (Flosewin) where i find a hound doing a mission, i go for it but it runs away.

Next i move on to Aset. Theres a retribution and a few stealthbombers on scan, but they all clear out quite quickly, i check the surrounding systems but bar a few herons scanning i cant really find anything. So i move back towards Ardar, i find a few more bombers running the fw missions but they all have a brain and manage to warp out (close call with a manticore within 20km once). Ardar itself is also empty bar an algos doing weird stuff, but it always runs when i arrive on grid (being -10 doesnt help).

Then i jump into Hadozeko, and there we have a rupture somewhere in space, a tristan in a novice and somwhere a caldary navy hookbill and a retribution. I warp in onto the novice, seeing if the tristan has balls (tristans are so easy to use, and people think they are extremely op, that they usually tend to try above their weight) - it does, although i think its more due to him being very new to the game. https://zkillboard.com/kill/59096535/ Its not really fit very well, and its a t1 frig with t1 mods by a new character, but still - first solo kill 17 minutes after logging in.

So i saw the retri and the hookbill on scan ealier and the second the tristan died they both wrote gf in local, which made me curious, dscan was empty for me so i warped to the only complex more then 14 au away (roidiest rage or something), the hookbill is 200km away and the retri 500km. So i decide to burn for the hookbill, it bails when i come within 60km but the retri starts to burn towards me, i oblige and a few minutes later this happens https://zkillboard.com/kill/59096824/ (24 minutes after logging in).

Because i was mean to the hookbill pilot in local, claiming he was a coward for not fighting a turret frigate in a hookbill he asked me to 1v1 him inside the novice - https://zkillboard.com/kill/59096969/ (27 minutes after logging in). Then i logged out.



So no alts, no fleet, nothing but a solo frigate - within 30 minutes i got 3 kills, 2 of them being actual fights. Which leads to my conclusion that solo pvp is perfectly easy to find and you dont even need more then half an hour to get a few GFs.



Tl:dr got bored, timed how long it took to get a solo kill, 3 1v1s wthiin 30 minutes.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2017-01-14 09:09:10 UTC
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
To quote myself from another thread:


W0lf Crendraven wrote:
So since people everywhere q.q a lot about no solo pvp i decided to test how long it takes to log in, get into a ship and then do some solo pvp and see how long it took me till i got a kill.

So, i logged in (in highsec), jumpcloned to a lowsec system where i had a frigate (a succubus):

I undock with 7 in local in Ardar, theres 4 t1 frigs in space doing stuff but i cant seem to pointpoint them, also theres a svipul hunting me so after warping around for 1 minute or so with the svipul always following me i decide to move on, i jump into the next system (Flosewin) where i find a hound doing a mission, i go for it but it runs away.

Next i move on to Aset. Theres a retribution and a few stealthbombers on scan, but they all clear out quite quickly, i check the surrounding systems but bar a few herons scanning i cant really find anything. So i move back towards Ardar, i find a few more bombers running the fw missions but they all have a brain and manage to warp out (close call with a manticore within 20km once). Ardar itself is also empty bar an algos doing weird stuff, but it always runs when i arrive on grid (being -10 doesnt help).

Then i jump into Hadozeko, and there we have a rupture somewhere in space, a tristan in a novice and somwhere a caldary navy hookbill and a retribution. I warp in onto the novice, seeing if the tristan has balls (tristans are so easy to use, and people think they are extremely op, that they usually tend to try above their weight) - it does, although i think its more due to him being very new to the game. https://zkillboard.com/kill/59096535/ Its not really fit very well, and its a t1 frig with t1 mods by a new character, but still - first solo kill 17 minutes after logging in.

So i saw the retri and the hookbill on scan ealier and the second the tristan died they both wrote gf in local, which made me curious, dscan was empty for me so i warped to the only complex more then 14 au away (roidiest rage or something), the hookbill is 200km away and the retri 500km. So i decide to burn for the hookbill, it bails when i come within 60km but the retri starts to burn towards me, i oblige and a few minutes later this happens https://zkillboard.com/kill/59096824/ (24 minutes after logging in).

Because i was mean to the hookbill pilot in local, claiming he was a coward for not fighting a turret frigate in a hookbill he asked me to 1v1 him inside the novice - https://zkillboard.com/kill/59096969/ (27 minutes after logging in). Then i logged out.



So no alts, no fleet, nothing but a solo frigate - within 30 minutes i got 3 kills, 2 of them being actual fights. Which leads to my conclusion that solo pvp is perfectly easy to find and you dont even need more then half an hour to get a few GFs.



Tl:dr got bored, timed how long it took to get a solo kill, 3 1v1s wthiin 30 minutes.

They don't look solo. Two ships on each one. Besides they're frigates, whats the point, I could undock from any hub in highsec and get frigate fights all day long. They're so cheap its pointless.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#30 - 2017-01-15 00:26:39 UTC
Frigate pvp is still pvp, and a t2 frig or a pirate one is usually a lot more pricey then a t1 cruiser (after insurance). And it was proper solo pvp, why there were 2 people on the mail is explained perfectly well in the test (they fought each other very briefly earlier).


And the question was where to find solo pvpers, not where to find none frigate solo pvpers. Frigate pvp is by far the easiest pvp to find in eve, its plentifull and everywhere.
Darth Magus
The Lone Magus
#31 - 2017-01-21 03:28:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Magus
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Its pretty much a waste of time. You can literally go for hours from deep null all the way to empire and you''ll almost never get a 1 v 1. You may find solo players or even a duo to fight but from experience they'll never engage you unless they have overwhelming force.

You will invariably get baited into a fight and a cyno gank, or you'll chase someone down a pipe, they'll be in alliance or corp organizing a suprise party for you and won't stop running till their in range.

..snip...



ugh...so false...

I mean yeah - if you are not good at "data mining" and tactics/analytics - you will get "cyno-baited" and "gang-baited" alot...

I mean even with 100% sure intel, there is always a chance that the "statistically perceived solo target" may use a cyno - just because they decided on that day to switch things up - and you were just at the wrong time in the wrong place and ended up being their first ever cyno-bait kill...

that happens...

but for the most part solo PVP is there, and you can find a target - as someone above posted, roughly in 20-30min (or even couple targets) depending on which space you're in...

again - it mostly comes down to your "tribal knowledge" of the space that you operate in, which people/corps/alliances to avoid (blobbers + hotdroppers), and then your knowledge of the actual "ship pvp" and the "meta" comes second...

Your solo "pwnmobile" and the meta you use in soloing is only as good as the knowledge of your target environment...















EDIT:

Infinity Ziona wrote:

They don't look solo. Two ships on each one. Besides they're frigates, whats the point, I could undock from any hub in highsec and get frigate fights all day long. They're so cheap its pointless.


because fighting in anything bigger (although you can def experiment with t2-frig or dessie, or t3d or even Cruiser) - but the bigger the size of the ship - the slower it does everything (warps/locks/kills/dies) - which allows your enemy to get possible reinforcements...

unfortunately using smaller ships is part of the "solo PVP" meta (there are some exceptions, where you can use bigger ships, but they are very rare)...

frigs ususally die(or kill their target) in under 40sec...dessier do so in under a minute... that window is perfect for solo PVP...

go bigger - and fights will last 2-3 min at which point you are usually in trouble...
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2017-01-22 07:34:45 UTC
Darth Magus wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Its pretty much a waste of time. You can literally go for hours from deep null all the way to empire and you''ll almost never get a 1 v 1. You may find solo players or even a duo to fight but from experience they'll never engage you unless they have overwhelming force.

You will invariably get baited into a fight and a cyno gank, or you'll chase someone down a pipe, they'll be in alliance or corp organizing a suprise party for you and won't stop running till their in range.

..snip...



ugh...so false...

I mean yeah - if you are not good at "data mining" and tactics/analytics - you will get "cyno-baited" and "gang-baited" alot...

I mean even with 100% sure intel, there is always a chance that the "statistically perceived solo target" may use a cyno - just because they decided on that day to switch things up - and you were just at the wrong time in the wrong place and ended up being their first ever cyno-bait kill...

that happens...

but for the most part solo PVP is there, and you can find a target - as someone above posted, roughly in 20-30min (or even couple targets) depending on which space you're in...

again - it mostly comes down to your "tribal knowledge" of the space that you operate in, which people/corps/alliances to avoid (blobbers + hotdroppers), and then your knowledge of the actual "ship pvp" and the "meta" comes second...

Your solo "pwnmobile" and the meta you use in soloing is only as good as the knowledge of your target environment...















EDIT:

Infinity Ziona wrote:

They don't look solo. Two ships on each one. Besides they're frigates, whats the point, I could undock from any hub in highsec and get frigate fights all day long. They're so cheap its pointless.


because fighting in anything bigger (although you can def experiment with t2-frig or dessie, or t3d or even Cruiser) - but the bigger the size of the ship - the slower it does everything (warps/locks/kills/dies) - which allows your enemy to get possible reinforcements...

unfortunately using smaller ships is part of the "solo PVP" meta (there are some exceptions, where you can use bigger ships, but they are very rare)...

frigs ususally die(or kill their target) in under 40sec...dessier do so in under a minute... that window is perfect for solo PVP...

go bigger - and fights will last 2-3 min at which point you are usually in trouble...

Frigate PvP is pointless. It's a frigate, worth almost nothing, even the expensive frigs being worth less an average single faction module used on a cruiser or higher. Is it pvp? Not really in terms of EvE. It takes longer to recover from armor damage from PvE death in WoW

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#33 - 2017-01-22 23:19:07 UTC
A priate frig usually is worth a lot more then even the average BC, especially after insurance.
Taurean Eltanin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2017-01-23 11:11:02 UTC
Quote:
Frigate PvP is pointless. It's a frigate, worth almost nothing, even the expensive frigs being worth less an average single faction module used on a cruiser or higher. Is it pvp? Not really in terms of EvE. It takes longer to recover from armor damage from PvE death in WoW


As W0lf has already pointed out, faction frigates are typically more expensive than most T1 destroyers, cruisers, or battle cruisers. They are about on par with T3 destroyers, which are another excellent solo ship.

In fact, solo pvp strongly favours fast, agile ships (which, by their nature, tend to be small). This is because while you may be flying solo, New Eden is filled with pilots who are not. Being able to evade larger groups is a critical roaming skill.

And of course, much pvp is non-consensual. So you need to be fast enough to catch the pilots trying to evade you.

Solo pvp is not about the value destroyed (although we all love a blingy killmail, of course), but about testing yourself against other pilots, both in the fight, and in the hunt that leads up to it. If you want to pad your killboard, you are better off just joining a null sec corp and getting in a few fleet battles.

And it is most certainly out there. I got six solo kills - several of them destroyers - in the course of a fairly relaxed afternoon yesterday. And, yes, I was flying a frigate.

If you like reading about low sec piracy or wormhole pvp, you might enjoy my blog.

Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#35 - 2017-01-23 18:01:12 UTC
I guess there is some amount of subjectivity here.

Of the 21 billion in isk I lost (on this character) I much prefer to have thousands of fights where I lose 10 mill a pop rather than say 7 fights where I lost 3 bill at a time. I can't say the actual pvp is just as much fun in a cheaper ship as it is in a more expensive one. I have had the most fun flying a rupture (before it was "rebalanced") and t1 frigates and destroyers.

As to the op keep in mind that the meta is very different in high, low, null and wormholes. My main experience in high sec was in rvb. I still think this is a great way to learn pvp. The meta is very similar to fw low sec. My most experience is in low sec fw and I think it is the best for solo.

I haven't had much experience in wh and the experience I have had was pretty lame. No local means allot of time wasted only to find cloaked friends if you want to engage. But again I don't have much experience there.

Null sec is much more gang oriented and organized than low sec. Bubbles make it so just about everyone has an mwd, so fitting a scram can really pay off. Also solo there is often a matter of trying to catch ratters who are not pvp fit. At least compared to low sec. Your just not going to find too many pve fit ships to kill in low sec.

I much prefer fw low sec. However I do agree that the frigate menace is higher there. If you fly a larger ship you have to have a plan for getting swarmed by smaller ships. It doesn't help that ccp is constantly "rebalancing" ships by dropping utility highs so you can neut smaller ships to help you gain transversal. The rapid lights help for missile ships but many ships still don't get a bonus for them - such as the cyclone and caldari navy caracal.

CCP did help battleships with new grappler webs but I am not sure how well that will work against frigates.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Annabelle Le
The Mjolnir Bloc
Templis CALSF
#36 - 2017-01-26 02:47:10 UTC
There are some really good points here and It may be easy for some to find 1vs1 pvp. But for a new player its fairly hard unless you are just wanting to collect insurance.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#37 - 2017-01-27 15:49:09 UTC
Annabelle Le wrote:
There are some really good points here and It may be easy for some to find 1vs1 pvp. But for a new player its fairly hard unless you are just wanting to collect insurance.



Even veteran players will hit some bad streaks. I am getting back into solo pvp and have just now lost like 7 ships in a row without a single kill. Each time I made small mistakes that cost me the fight. Its important to think about this and try to determine if you were just fighting a fight that could not be won or if you made some mistakes that cost you. With experience you will learn to take fights you can win. With more experience you will learn how much you can push the envelope and take on more fights than you thought. Sure it can get to be depressing to replay a fight and think
Why didn't I over heat faster?
Why did I overheat too long?
Why didn't I see he was arty fit faster?
why did I not see I was losing transversal?
and of course with all of these losses there is the ever present:
"Why must I lose to this idiot?"

But remember there will be good streaks too. There will be times when you get lucky due to your opponents mistakes.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Annabelle Le
The Mjolnir Bloc
Templis CALSF
#38 - 2017-01-28 00:32:21 UTC
Another thing about finding fights that's annoying is the security and standing loss. You fly around in FW and see LP farmers and if they aren't in the opposing militia you can't touch them with out taking a hit to your standing. I guess I don't have a problem with that except you don't gain standing from killing some one in the opposing militia.
Aves Asio
#39 - 2017-01-28 10:09:11 UTC
Dont listen to the bads in this thread. Solo is out there you just have to find it. You have to know your capabilities and your targets weakness, you have to know the area and the people that live in it. Basically solo requires a lot of skill.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#40 - 2017-01-30 16:04:50 UTC
I just wanted to post and say that I have found this to be one of the best times for solo pvp in fw space. The only other time that might compete with now is the time right after inferno hit. IMO both then and now is the most fights you will ever get as a solo pvpers. I lost quite a few ships but in every loss I can think of, I can honestly say I had my chances and it was due to mistakes I made during the fight.

Mentally this is a huge difference than the days where I would lose a fight because I was just fighting someone with a booster alt and really had no chance. I think this has indeed brought allot of solo fighters back. And for all the people who said putting links on grid would just lead to more falcon alts and remote rep alts - I haven't run into that a single time. (although I have been avoiding certain systems) Thank you ccp.

BTW I was in Amarr Minmatar FW space.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

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