EVE General Discussion

Hello,

As I didn't find this information, do someone know how is sorted the skill categories in the character sheet, as it's not alphabetical ? Because so far, the only logic I found is "Let's shuffle it and display it as is", and it takes ages to find the skill category you want...

Any idea / advice ?

@CCP: can't you sort it like before ?

Ahah, yeah, it was my first thought too ^^

Currently it's really a PITA to find the skill category you want, since there are "no orders" ...

But yes, CCP Logic. Sadly.

It's CCP's version of the way we categorize skills:

Ship skills
Weapon skills
Support skills
Misc skills.

Except they have Ships, Support, Weapons, Ewar/Probing, Industry, Misc.

It's actually easier to use if you click the ^ buttons and minimize your mug shot and the skill categories, because then there's just one row of icons and once you get used to them it's relatively simple.

I also suspect it's a priority list of how many people train skills in each section, with the most common sections at the start to some extent.
It's also not very hard to use mkint. By not very hard I mean 'dead easy'. You just sometimes have to spend 10 seconds reading section headers.

Collapse the skill categories. The icons are pretty good. I find a category faster when i see only the icons.

I have no idea though why the skill categories are not listed alphabetically. What does CCP's character sheet design document (=a detailed description of an UI) say for the category list? Sort by: ???

Agreed

though I'm still holding my breath on them letting us split the skill queue and known skills window, having two vertical lists stacked on top of each other is just bad design

I find it jarring to navigate, IMO. I'm not trying to compare it to what was before, just I find the current design to not be very intuitive to me. Skill categories, skills, and training queue are all uniquely designed elements that at first glance show no connection to each other. I had to click around for a few minutes to realize that there was actually a connection between them all how that connection played out. Honestly though, I looked because I already know there is a hierarchy connection based on my own experience in EvE. I wonder what a new user's experience would be like without that knowledge? The three panels shared no visual styles that would relate them at first glance. Add to that the data pop-ups for each skill category and skill type, I constantly found myself reaching for the upper right "x" button to close them. It seems design real estate would better be served by at least having a centralized frame for specs and data, instead of forcing the eye to literally jump a few hundred pixels on every mouse-over event. Especially considering the unused space, when the frame is maximized.

I honestly don't get it. From a designer's perspective, it seems arbitrary to mix things up this way. Redesign for the sake of redesign rather than for user intuition and ease of navigation. Of course much of the EvE interface seems completely disconnected from other elements, from my experience. It's like programmers are designing UI without design principles and philosophy, and each developer is an island.

Iderno. I'm just a passive player at best. I'm only posting on this topic because I dig me some graphic and UI design logic. This made me twitch a bit.

I'm only speaking from a visual design perspective. I'm sure there are many that find this more appealing now. A few have posted already, so I'm not trying to take away from that. It just seems ..odd to me. On several levels. Maybe it will grow on me?

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I too have found it less functional and somewhat of a pain.

I'm getting used to the interface and the icons, have about half of them memorized.

So, of course, what's going to happen is, they'll finally listen to all our complaints and change it again, just as we finally get used to it.

Personally I just disable my brain when i meet Eve interface. Just mindlessly search for what i need.

This helps a lot.