EVE General Discussion

They're not.

ISBox was an exploit in my opinion and I'm glad it's gone. I am a solo player and never saw the benefit in having a mining fleet able to clean out an asteroid belt by myself. Why bother? Just so you can earn enough plex to be able to subscribe to a multitude of account so that you can earn enough ISK to afford the plex? I play for enjoyment and I don't count my success in how much ISK I make in an hour, that just seems a sterile and blinkered way of playing EVE. If you want to brag about how easy making ISK is in EVE fair enough just don't use dubious shortcuts to do so.

This is good, this is good.

Lets get all the dumbass ideas out of the way now, so the forums can be clean for next week.

First, EvE is a game the centers on groups: gangs, corps, alliances... blocs.
Please Note, that the game isn't unplayable solo by any means, but choosing to do so indicates that the solo player is accepting this as a challenge.

Second. Any task that a single player can do with multiple accounts, a group can do better given the same tools. One player controlling 8 accounts will still lose out to 3 players controlling 8 account each while working in tandem.

I'm actually trying to think of anything that a solo player can do with only one character that can't be done better with two or more accounts, and I'm drawing a blank. That's the nature of EvE.

The only things that a player gains by being solo are security - unless your alts are someone's spies - and control over play-times and resources.

Solo players aren't being shown hostility or left out in the cold. They are knowingly engaging in a playstyle where they are prioritizing personal security and personal time over efficiency, camaraderie, and social engagement.

--Gadget

I've never seen anything from CCP expressly saying they don't want people to multibox - I've seen some CCP employees air the opinion (and a general developer direction) that multi-boxing should not be a necessity in eve.

A game like eve benefits from having a lot of people logged in an active even if a percentage of that is one player with multiple characters aslong as they are doing something - these types of games die very quickly when player numbers drop below a certain threshold - even though eve is a little more resistant to that compared to some.

What end game content are we talking about here? It would to good know what you consider to be end game content.

For me there really isn't such a thing as End game content within Eve, just different play styles and environments.

Technically you can still do everything you could before ISboxer and such were banned, it is just now a hell of a lot harder which kind of proves the point.

If you find a task next to impossible without ISboxer then that shows how powerful of a tool it became.

isbox wont matter when we are all forced to be limited to 1 account like the alphas as ccp have stated since they limited alphas for "balance" and have plans for omega accounts aswell

Alphas aren't limited to one account, they can have as many as they like; what they can't do is log them in concurrently.

As for the topic of input broadcasting, I'm joining the nays.

Solo mining using how many ships?

Most people definition of solo mining is with one ship. If you are using 5, 10, 15 etc ships then I am sorry you are going to get zero sympathy.

The advantage of being around for a long time is that you have done most things. I have mined in null sec using 4 accounts, 3 hulks + 1 orca all without ISboxer.

Did I run when hostiles came in system, you bet your ass I ran because I never had any expectations that I should be able to fight them off.

I docked up, changed ships, grabbed some corp mates and went hunting.

You are arguing that you want to be able to mine in null sec solo whilst in control of x number of ships and fight people off solo.

Anything else you want? Titan that has a billion HP points, can fit 10 strip miners, infinite cargo hold, deploy 1000 drones all at once and immune to all forms of ECM, Bubbles, bumping etc..

I know I am pushing it but you might as well be asking for it.

**cough,cough** stealthbombers **cough, cough**

--Coughing Gadget

Key broadcasting has done incalculable damage to this games economy and player environment that will take years to recover from (arguably never)

CCPs reaction was very late, but atleast forceful and final.

Never again.