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Conogan Blitzkreig
Induced Warfare
#1 - 2016-12-01 05:59:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Conogan Blitzkreig
Make a separate server named "You Shouldn't Really Play Games, But OK" that is just one big Empire Space blob. At the same time, UTTERLY PLUMMET the safety, without eliminating it, of Tranquillity Hisec and.... Dum da dum dum da.....

Fix the damn game so 10X more "people" will play it(and stop catering to loser carebears on Tranquility).

And uh.. make money n' stuff.


I'm a genius, are'nt I?
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#2 - 2016-12-01 06:47:57 UTC
making it all pvp with no mining/ratting/missions will not make more people play.

eliminating the safety will not make more players stay but will actually incur the opposite.

back when CCP did the jump tunnel graphics they stated "we are at the point we can start losing players" months later they were asking "how do we get players to stay"

the company has always advertised the "Come to eve and be the bad guy" and with HTFU slogan created a toxic player community.

Ganking and harassment by gankers have caused new people to leave.

Also with out the carebears you wouldn't have ships and fittings to play your game in.

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2016-12-01 07:13:56 UTC
Roll
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#4 - 2016-12-01 13:41:28 UTC
A bear server would be a total failure, just like the one made for ultima online.

More people quit from boredom and lack of pvp than ganking and 'harrassment'.

Quote:
Also with out the carebears you wouldn't have ships and fittings to play your game in.
this is astonishingly ignorant for someone whos been around as long as you.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#5 - 2016-12-01 14:46:49 UTC
Both your fantasy "care-bear" server and an all nullsec server sound boring.

I particularly like having completely different ways to play this great game.

It keeps things fresh and interesting.

--Easily Bored Gadget

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#6 - 2016-12-01 17:24:12 UTC
Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:
Both your fantasy "care-bear" server and an all nullsec server sound boring.

I particularly like having completely different ways to play this great game.

It keeps things fresh and interesting.

--Easily Bored Gadget



Gadget, I think we should make a plea for renaming the security of space since the security and security are all kinda upside down.
We have the following spaces named wrong:

- Highsec: super-dangerous gank-online land where you always lose your ship(s)

- Lowsec: faction warfare and insta-kill-svipul camps-online (you only fly frigates or svipul-insta-murder-omg-bbq-totally-fine-iwin-boat)

- Nullsec: carebear lala land

- W-space: nobody is ever there but everyone is talking about it

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2016-12-01 17:38:16 UTC
Agondray wrote:


Also with out the carebears you wouldn't have ships and fittings to play your game in.


That was almost grotesquely idiotic in that I have known plenty of people who PvP and also engage full scale in industry.

1. Moon goo, that is produced pretty much entirely by PvP alliances/coalitions.
2. PI is a huge thing for making ISK in NS for people who do not like to rat.
3. Back in the day we had a corp in our alliance that funded much of their corp operational expenses via invention done at a corporation level.

This ridiculous assumption of, "You are either a carebear who makes stuff, or a PvPer who destroys stuff," is just flat out wrong and bone headed and will lead to all sorts of stupid conclusions.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2016-12-01 18:00:28 UTC
Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:
Both your fantasy "care-bear" server and an all nullsec server sound boring.

I particularly like having completely different ways to play this great game.

It keeps things fresh and interesting.

--Easily Bored Gadget



It is also likely what gives us the emergent aspect of the game. If there were 2 servers that turned into just combat PvP and no combat PvP we'd likely see quite a bit less interesting game play emerging. Both would likely become quite boring.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#9 - 2016-12-01 20:26:09 UTC
Conogan Blitzkreig wrote:
...I'm a genius, are'nt I?


Nope, not in the slightest.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2016-12-01 23:18:06 UTC
Conogan Blitzkreig wrote:
Make a separate server named "You Shouldn't Really Play Games, But OK" that is just one big Empire Space blob. At the same time, UTTERLY PLUMMET the safety, without eliminating it, of Tranquillity Hisec and.... Dum da dum dum da.....

Fix the damn game so 10X more "people" will play it(and stop catering to loser carebears on Tranquility).

And uh.. make money n' stuff.


I'm a genius, are'nt I?

We have SiSi for that. Nonconsensual PvP isn't allowed there.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#11 - 2016-12-02 04:02:09 UTC
4/10 troll.

Not original material. Hasn't defended idea in face of criticism.
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2016-12-05 02:02:00 UTC
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