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Transferring a Character with 1 Year of Omega left
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Zorn Cosby
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2016-12-02 23:07:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Zorn Cosby
One person comments that I am entitled (and continually labels me as such) since I want as a paying player access to what is now offered to non paying players on a paying account (never acknowledging that I proposed to actually pay for it). And then continues to taunt and ridicule. (Note that I have not called names, yet he has for nearly every post since, it appears to be his modus operandi)

Another person comments that free 5M sp is nothing of note and refuses to see that 5M sp does have value and believes that paying players should not have access to it except by pretending as if they were new players.

And then the 'status quo' community decides to bury their heads about potentially offering the same via a paying account for a fee, yet continues to diss this as an idea.

Negative and mocking comments have impact. CCP changes over the last 18 months to clones, mining, & boosting are just additional issues that have reduced profitability and complicated interactivity for no improvement in gameplay. While this unsubbing would likely have happened sometime in the distant future, it sure as heck happened earlier since I have now identified more specifically my general malaise about the game and discovering it was as much the community tenor as CCP's direction. CCP has lost $1K+ annual income from me, basically a nearly perfect player to have since I fund my accounts with solely cash.

Congrats and thanks for having me save my money and hurting CCP in the pocketbook. Pat yourself on the back for being nice, welcoming, open-minded and friendly to an idea about offering Alpha benefits for a fee to Omega accounts. It was so effective. If I distribute my billions, it will be to someone that has actually been helpful in game (there are just a few), not mocking and dismissive.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#42 - 2016-12-02 23:16:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Zorn Cosby wrote:
Another person comments that free 5M sp is nothing of note and refuses to see that 5M sp does have value and believes that paying players should not have access to it except by pretending as if they were new players.

But you do have access to it.

You have access to those exact same skillpoints at twice the speed that an alpha account has access to them. Plus a whole lot more.

It's incorrect to say that as omegas we don't have access to those skillpoints.

Here's my eveboard for example: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Scipio_Artelius

Go compare my skills to the skills available to an alpha. Almost all of the alpha skills I have trained (except the PvE related ones).

I'm an omega.

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Congrats and thanks for having me save my money and hurting CCP in the pocketbook. Pat yourself on the back for being nice, welcoming, open-minded and friendly to an idea about offering Alpha benefits for a fee to Omega accounts. It was so effective. If I distribute my billions, it will be to someone that has actually been helpful in game (there are just a few), not mocking and dismissive.

That's your decision and we are all within our rights to make our own decisions. If you are quitting the game over the forums, then sorry to see you go, but it's not anyone's fault. It's just your decision and we shouldn't change our view just to decide your spending habits. Same as you shouldn't have to change your view to match what any of us think.

I could for example, decide not to play because of threads in the forum. That is nothing on the people that write those threads. It would be all my decision.

Just as your decision is here, so no need for congratulations to anyone as spite at people who don't share your view.

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CCP changes over the last 18 months to clones, mining, & boosting are just additional issues that have reduced profitability and complicated interactivity for no improvement in gameplay.

Reduced profitability?
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#43 - 2016-12-02 23:35:37 UTC
This is going silly and we're not even a month after release.

Remove standings and insurance.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2016-12-03 00:02:33 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
This is going silly and we're not even a month after release.

We've had several such threads attempting to "logic" their way into extra training or simultaneous alpha logons for a while now with various interpretations of what alphas offer. It wasn't even a week before this started.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#45 - 2016-12-03 00:15:16 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
This is going silly and we're not even a month after release.

We've had several such threads attempting to "logic" their way into extra training or simultaneous alpha logons for a while now with various interpretations of what alphas offer. It wasn't even a week before this started.

Yes. We're a toxic community and a ruin to the game.

Remove standings and insurance.
Salvos Rhoska
#46 - 2016-12-03 09:23:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
There is one advantage to Omegas which benefits some people more than others.

This is that since all characters on an Omega account can be flown without restrictions, players that actually have additional specialised/skilled characters on an account get more bang for their buck, than players that dont.

In this sense, it could be argued it would be fair that Omega accounts could train one character at Alpha rates and restrictions simultaneously on that Omega account, if there is a free character slot.

Im not gonna advocate for it, just pointing out the interesting systemic artifact that Omega status is more equitable for accounts with multiple developed characters than those that dont.

Its early days in the Alpha/Omega situation.
I think its fair to say that it is almost certain changes will be made, in atleast some ways, over time.
Especially when the situation matures on the timeline to where the earliest mass batch of created Alphas reach full SP ingame.

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