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Besieged solo Ishtar
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Burnrunner Hendar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2016-11-28 18:57:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Burnrunner Hendar
This is what ive seen solo the besieged sites. It seems to do ok i suppose any thoughts how to make it better without using shield tank?

[Ishtar, Unnamed loadout]
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Medium Armor Repairer
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Energized Explosive Membrane II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Gistum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
[empty high slot]

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II


Warden II x5
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#2 - 2016-11-29 11:33:44 UTC
You can always fly a turret boat instead. If hear the Caldari have a nag for railguns, now that they are usefull.

Or the Gila if you want a shield drone boat.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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Burnrunner Hendar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2016-11-29 14:52:01 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
You can always fly a turret boat instead. If hear the Caldari have a nag for railguns, now that they are usefull.

Or the Gila if you want a shield drone boat.



can a Gila tank that kind of dps? also What about a Deimos?
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#4 - 2016-11-29 15:32:13 UTC
Yes she can, I ran 3 of them in a row somewhere in lowsec when they were new, No biggy for a Gila.

I guess the Deimos will be fine too.

You are looking at this wrong, you are not supposed to warp to zero and get your children home from school. Active, in front of your screen you are supposed to move around.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
Burnrunner Hendar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-11-29 18:36:37 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Yes she can, I ran 3 of them in a row somewhere in lowsec when they were new, No biggy for a Gila.

I guess the Deimos will be fine too.

You are looking at this wrong, you are not supposed to warp to zero and get your children home from school. Active, in front of your screen you are supposed to move around.



That much i knew i warp at 70 and orbit sentries. with a Tar. but deimos would need to be fairly close to hit.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#6 - 2016-11-29 18:51:25 UTC
Yeah, don't use a Deimos. Or rather, if you use a Deimos you'd better plan on rail fitting it. Once they get webs and scrams on you you could easily be in trouble.

[Deimos, this could work]
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M

Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Note that I'm not just tossing AM on there either. You seriously want to think about keeping range. Cap management is gonna be fun.
Burnrunner Hendar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-11-29 19:16:09 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Yes she can, I ran 3 of them in a row somewhere in lowsec when they were new, No biggy for a Gila.

I guess the Deimos will be fine too.

You are looking at this wrong, you are not supposed to warp to zero and get your children home from school. Active, in front of your screen you are supposed to move around.



Got a fit for a gila that could do it you wouldnt mind posting?
Burnrunner Hendar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-11-29 19:16:56 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Yeah, don't use a Deimos. Or rather, if you use a Deimos you'd better plan on rail fitting it. Once they get webs and scrams on you you could easily be in trouble.

[Deimos, this could work]
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M

Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Note that I'm not just tossing AM on there either. You seriously want to think about keeping range. Cap management is gonna be fun.



Rail deimos.....alright ill bite that looks amusing
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#9 - 2016-11-29 19:21:44 UTC
Burnrunner Hendar wrote:
...Got a fit for a gila that could do it you wouldnt mind posting?


I am sorry but I do mind. However I wrote a guide here and you are basically flying a Moa with an extra mid slot if that helps.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
Burnrunner Hendar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2016-11-29 19:31:55 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Yeah, don't use a Deimos. Or rather, if you use a Deimos you'd better plan on rail fitting it. Once they get webs and scrams on you you could easily be in trouble.

[Deimos, this could work]
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge M

Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Note that I'm not just tossing AM on there either. You seriously want to think about keeping range. Cap management is gonna be fun.



What about this?

[Deimos, Unnamed loadout]
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner

250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator II


Vespa II x5
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#11 - 2016-11-30 08:34:52 UTC
Burnrunner Hendar wrote:
What about this?

[Deimos, Unnamed loadout]
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner

250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator II


Vespa II x5


Overall looks fine. Jav still puts you a bit close for my taste but you do have a hell of a lot of falloff to work with I suppose.

MWD vs. AB is the usual debate. Mordu's ships are kind of ridiculously fast for NPCs but I think you can get away with an AB if you start at reasonable range. If you don't mind shelling for the faction AB I'd consider something like this:

[Deimos, this would work copy 1]
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Triple TCs look insane but I've had good luck with swapping scripts around as needed. Stable with either AB or rep. Not actually a horrible build on paper.
Burnrunner Hendar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-11-30 19:47:10 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Burnrunner Hendar wrote:
What about this?

[Deimos, Unnamed loadout]
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner

250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator II


Vespa II x5


Overall looks fine. Jav still puts you a bit close for my taste but you do have a hell of a lot of falloff to work with I suppose.

MWD vs. AB is the usual debate. Mordu's ships are kind of ridiculously fast for NPCs but I think you can get away with an AB if you start at reasonable range. If you don't mind shelling for the faction AB I'd consider something like this:

[Deimos, this would work copy 1]
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Triple TCs look insane but I've had good luck with swapping scripts around as needed. Stable with either AB or rep. Not actually a horrible build on paper.



Not sure if this will work but its deffo cheaper and the same idea.

[Naga, Unnamed loadout]
Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150

425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L

Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II