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Make The Fitting Requirements for Cynos the Same as Combat Probes
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Iain Cariaba
#21 - 2016-11-30 10:51:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Iain Cariaba
Tabyll Altol wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
its not the cyno which kills.. its the fleet behind.
Cyno is just a way to bypass the cheapest intel tool named local chat. There has to be a way, because otherwise, well, nice kills wouldnt happen.


There are two ways to look at. Because of the cyno most titans will only be used when your sure you have the bigger super fleet. If the capablility of instant transfert of those ships would be limited the use of them would properly go up.

This is happening. Be patient and allow the supply to meet the demand for new titan pilots. These things take a while to build.

I'd be interested if someone could find some stats as to rates of super and titan losses for the last while.
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#22 - 2016-11-30 19:14:26 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
its not the cyno which kills.. its the fleet behind.
Cyno is just a way to bypass the cheapest intel tool named local chat. There has to be a way, because otherwise, well, nice kills wouldnt happen.


So change local so that you only see what's on grid with you in local chat.
Brigadine Ferathine
Presumed Dead Enterprises
Against ALL Authorities.
#23 - 2016-12-01 02:07:36 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
PopeUrban wrote:
Another "CYNOS RUIN MY HONORABLE DUELS" post?

Look, buddy, The only difference between the fleet that hotdropped you and the fleet that gatecamped you is that in one of these cases you had to take the bait.

Stop taking the bait.

Man then no PvP would ever happen.

Then don't whine when you fall for the bait.

How do you tell what is bait and what isn't?

It's all bait. Really, who cares if they drop titans on you and blap you off the field. You realize they probably spent more in fuel and ammo than your ship is worth?

Not much of a consolation, but your comment kind of helped my point. If its all bait then where's the upfront and honest PvP?
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2016-12-01 07:17:09 UTC
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:

Not much of a consolation, but your comment kind of helped my point. If its all bait then where's the upfront and honest PvP?


in another game entirely.
Cade Windstalker
#25 - 2016-12-01 14:35:01 UTC
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:

Man then no PvP would ever happen.

Then don't whine when you fall for the bait.

How do you tell what is bait and what isn't?


Ship scanner if you're lazy, common sense and a little less risk aversion if you aren't.

Sometimes the bait isn't obvious and you get whelped. It's part of Eve.

Also no, PvP would still happen, but only by people who are willing to lose fights.

I have literally lead a fleet (and by lead I mean took responsibility for) that decided it wanted to shoot *OBVIOUS PL BAIT TEMPEST* when we knew there was a Titan chilling in a POS in the same system. We shot the Tempest, Titan warped on grid and blapped half the fleet, Tempest died, everyone ran for it, fun was had by all.

I got to watch my corp mates do something hilarious, the bored PL pilots got to shoot something, and my friends got to shoot something and then laugh about how the PL pilot failed to kill the most expensive stuff on the field and just shot T1 BCs.

Again, want to reiterate, obvious bait and we didn't have a Cyno (because Eve Uni) and we still made PvP happen.
Brigadine Ferathine
Presumed Dead Enterprises
Against ALL Authorities.
#26 - 2016-12-01 15:21:20 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:

Man then no PvP would ever happen.

Then don't whine when you fall for the bait.

How do you tell what is bait and what isn't?


Ship scanner if you're lazy, common sense and a little less risk aversion if you aren't.

Sometimes the bait isn't obvious and you get whelped. It's part of Eve.

Also no, PvP would still happen, but only by people who are willing to lose fights.

I have literally lead a fleet (and by lead I mean took responsibility for) that decided it wanted to shoot *OBVIOUS PL BAIT TEMPEST* when we knew there was a Titan chilling in a POS in the same system. We shot the Tempest, Titan warped on grid and blapped half the fleet, Tempest died, everyone ran for it, fun was had by all.

I got to watch my corp mates do something hilarious, the bored PL pilots got to shoot something, and my friends got to shoot something and then laugh about how the PL pilot failed to kill the most expensive stuff on the field and just shot T1 BCs.

Again, want to reiterate, obvious bait and we didn't have a Cyno (because Eve Uni) and we still made PvP happen.

That's not what I am talking about. Ship scanners show modules?
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2016-12-01 18:54:20 UTC
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:

That's not what I am talking about. Ship scanners show modules?


Yes, that is exactly what they do.
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