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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#41 - 2016-11-26 09:22:01 UTC
Desari Lysette wrote:
Personally, i agree with SP capping Alpha's... but i disagree with all the restrictions. i mean 5m sp is a big ass restriction as it is. They should lift all those restrictions and let people put thier 5m wherever they want, so that they can experiance what they need in order to discover if they wish to continue on into being Omega's.


yes EVE would be greatly improved with unlimited cloaky (cyno) alts and entosis alts in every system that is a fine idea

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#42 - 2016-11-26 09:28:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Ima Wreckyou
Judging by all the posts of the entitled free loaders it is at least free2whine, so that's something

Evil RatKid
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#43 - 2016-11-26 10:46:02 UTC
Cybrupt YouTube wrote:
Paying to waste your time and life is a double slap in the face.

You know what? Playing an mmorpg is not about the game so much, it's about the people you play with. If you have the feeling you're wasting your time playing with a community, then it's time to take your leave.

Remove standings and insurance.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2016-11-26 11:07:20 UTC
Kosomot wrote:

Alpha clone brought me back, and 5 days in, boom 3 month sub.

Why did you wait for Alphas if you haven't used it at all? What?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
The Lobsters
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2016-11-26 11:46:59 UTC
I've just relogged after a two year break to see what all this alpha clone business is about. This thread has me confused. Can someone clarify that an alpha clone can jump in a T1 frigate, fleet up with friends, go tackle someone and call in their new fleet friends to finish the poor guy off?

Or do I have to still pay for that privilege?

That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested his claim.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#46 - 2016-11-26 11:54:00 UTC
The Lobsters wrote:
I've just relogged after a two year break to see what all this alpha clone business is about. This thread has me confused. Can someone clarify that an alpha clone can jump in a T1 frigate, fleet up with friends, go tackle someone and call in their new fleet friends to finish the poor guy off?

Or do I have to still pay for that privilege?

Yes you can and no, you don't have to.

There's just a lot of entitlement going on.

Remove standings and insurance.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#47 - 2016-11-26 14:00:43 UTC
The Lobsters wrote:
I've just relogged after a two year break to see what all this alpha clone business is about. This thread has me confused. Can someone clarify that an alpha clone can jump in a T1 frigate, fleet up with friends, go tackle someone and call in their new fleet friends to finish the poor guy off?

Or do I have to still pay for that privilege?


Alphas are basically "WAHH GIBSMEDAT" and will continue to do it until there is no difference between an Alpha and Omega clone.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#48 - 2016-11-26 14:13:41 UTC
Desari Lysette wrote:
Personally, i agree with SP capping Alpha's... but i disagree with all the restrictions. i mean 5m sp is a big ass restriction as it is. They should lift all those restrictions and let people put thier 5m wherever they want, so that they can experiance what they need in order to discover if they wish to continue on into being Omega's.

The vets will all abuse that with free whatever alphas, while the new players will put a bunch of SP into mining, and then become frustrated that all they can do is mine and their character is practically useless. It won't end well.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#49 - 2016-11-26 14:19:24 UTC
Cybrupt YouTube wrote:
Well since I came to see the free part of the game I have to admit the first mining ship I looked at to buy required a subscription so I just rolled my eyes and thought about playing Phantasy Star Online for free instead, lol. Pretty sad really, lol. But I have a life these days and don't really play video games. The thing is youre always getting screwed when you play a video game. Paying to waste your time and life is a double slap in the face. and these hardcore losers who have several accounts running at the same time etc have serious problems. i dont have a problem with it having free low level stuff. you can get your fix and leave like I always do and know you can use the same account instead of making another trial account. Even when I paid I didn't really wanna play this crappy game. It's a cool game just crappy.

I pay to play eve because I like it. If you don't like it, you're free to not play it, but I fail to see how I'm wasting my life doing something I like.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
The Lobsters
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2016-11-26 17:34:30 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
The Lobsters wrote:
I've just relogged after a two year break to see what all this alpha clone business is about. This thread has me confused. Can someone clarify that an alpha clone can jump in a T1 frigate, fleet up with friends, go tackle someone and call in their new fleet friends to finish the poor guy off?

Or do I have to still pay for that privilege?

Yes you can and no, you don't have to.

There's just a lot of entitlement going on.


That's a big relief. For a horrible moment there I thought alpha clones couldn't fleet up, use comms and join a RvB slosh op grinder fleet smash.

That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested his claim.
Engage You
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2016-11-26 17:48:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Engage You
I would call it free to play if we could train 5mil sp WITHOUT limitations on the skills to use nor ships up to cruisers of any kind

CCP needs to change it to this.
u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
Ore No More
#52 - 2016-11-26 19:13:36 UTC
Engage You wrote:
I would call it free to play if we could train 5mil sp WITHOUT limitations on the skills to use nor ships up to cruisers of any kind

CCP needs to change it to this.


Read Malcanis's post, looks like you missed it.

Did you think CCP released this expansion without any thought of the consequences? They said they've considered this for years, but now you thought for a minute and decided what's best for the game? Why do you consider only new players are Alphas?

Think for more than one minute and the abusement that can come out of it and then write your suggestions.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#53 - 2016-11-26 19:19:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Game must be really good if people come hear demanding limitations to be lifted just few days after it became free. No way. Pay them.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#54 - 2016-11-26 19:53:26 UTC
u3pog wrote:
Engage You wrote:
I would call it free to play if we could train 5mil sp WITHOUT limitations on the skills to use nor ships up to cruisers of any kind

CCP needs to change it to this.


Read Malcanis's post, looks like you missed it.

Did you think CCP released this expansion without any thought of the consequences? They said they've considered this for years, but now you thought for a minute and decided what's best for the game? Why do you consider only new players are Alphas?

Think for more than one minute and the abusement that can come out of it and then write your suggestions.



Indeed. For once, CCP have really put some thought into a major change, and they've been really thorough about protecting the existing game from the very many abuses and imbalances that unrestricted F2P would cause. I will freely admit that I was genuinely surpised and pleased when I actually read the initial announcement. When I saw the title I was all "OMFG WHAT HAVE YOU MANIACS DONE THIS IS IT I QUIT FOR- oh, huh, they really thought this one through: actually this is pretty smart and should be really good for the game"

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Varathius
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
#55 - 2016-11-26 20:17:49 UTC
Cien Banchiere wrote:
But, it is free? You can play as an alpha for free. And alphas can be pretty effective, and this isnt the one ajd only iteration. Just like RuneScape let you do things without a sub. If you want to do more things you need a sub. It's literally the point of these types of things to dangle the carrot.


Effective at what exactly?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#56 - 2016-11-26 20:56:50 UTC
Varathius wrote:
Cien Banchiere wrote:
But, it is free? You can play as an alpha for free. And alphas can be pretty effective, and this isnt the one ajd only iteration. Just like RuneScape let you do things without a sub. If you want to do more things you need a sub. It's literally the point of these types of things to dangle the carrot.


Effective at what exactly?


What areas of gameplay do you think alphas can't participate in?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#57 - 2016-11-26 21:02:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Rinn
Varathius wrote:
Cien Banchiere wrote:
But, it is free? You can play as an alpha for free. And alphas can be pretty effective, and this isnt the one ajd only iteration. Just like RuneScape let you do things without a sub. If you want to do more things you need a sub. It's literally the point of these types of things to dangle the carrot.


Effective at what exactly?


The Lobsters wrote:
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
The Lobsters wrote:
I've just relogged after a two year break to see what all this alpha clone business is about. This thread has me confused. Can someone clarify that an alpha clone can jump in a T1 frigate, fleet up with friends, go tackle someone and call in their new fleet friends to finish the poor guy off?

Or do I have to still pay for that privilege?

Yes you can and no, you don't have to.

There's just a lot of entitlement going on.


That's a big relief. For a horrible moment there I thought alpha clones couldn't fleet up, use comms and join a RvB slosh op grinder fleet smash.



TL;DR: Alpha clones are effective at playing the game and participating in the community with all manner of activities.

Yes, you have restrictions. You're not paying for the account but you still get access to every single player in the game. I think that's pretty gosh-darned good value.

Day 0 Advice for New Players
Iain Cariaba
#58 - 2016-11-26 21:20:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Iain Cariaba
Quote:
I'm not getting enough for free. Give me more for free, or I'll be mad and not buy your stuff.


Did you stop for half a second, OP, and consider what you're saying? Your entire position in this thread boils down to the quote above.

Now that you see how those lacking your overblown sense of entitlement view your position, how do you think CCP sees it?
Lilith Sukarala
Doomheim
#59 - 2016-11-26 21:53:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Lilith Sukarala
If your not happy with what you got then just don't play the game. The trailer explaining what was free is out there..
u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
Ore No More
#60 - 2016-11-26 22:00:31 UTC
I am just going to quote the official trailer: "This game...you are not ready for it".