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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2016-11-25 20:00:26 UTC
Didn't read all posts but yes...


Free to try....


correct...


Unlimited trial

Big smile
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#22 - 2016-11-25 20:10:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Extending trial period to infinity is one step ahead of what you proposed, effectively not better than what you are able to complain about. Pirate

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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2016-11-25 20:58:34 UTC
Annette Durado wrote:
Nat Silverguard wrote:
Annette Durado wrote:
I'm a former player that has come back because the game is 'free'. I didn't really want to pay as Eve is just one of many games I am interested in (others are single player, one off cost and some MMOs that I bought to play).

So I log into the 'free' Eve and nothing is free. Any skill I need to develop requires a paid sub as I've got the basic ones already. The ships I already own, I can't fly because I need a sub.

So in effect, Eve isn't free to play, it's free to try and when you actually get a few skills, you cannot progress or do anything meaningful until you sub. Why not just extend the trail period for like, a month or two?


what's wrong about it being unlimited?


I just think that saying the game is now 'Free to Play' is a bit misleading, as you cannot do the free stuff for long as you out-skill the free bits and need to sub, realistically.

From the World of Warcraft site, for their free to play

"World of Warcraft®
Starter Edition
Become a defender of Azeroth and play FREE up to level 20!
Experience multiple classes and races and discover the hero that’s right for you.
Embark on epic quests, delve into perilous dungeons, and begin exploring a vast and ever-changing world."

Pretty much the same thing. Free to Play.
You are just confusing free to play, pay to win games with actual free to play "Starter editions" as it were.

The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.

After all we are not just players, we are customers.

Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
Ore No More
#24 - 2016-11-25 21:02:01 UTC
I hope you never see this game completely free to play, because the support and new content will die with it and then you'll cry.
These people (the devs) have to eat too you know...
Astrador
Falcon Agency
#25 - 2016-11-25 21:17:51 UTC
As ccp has workers which may have family or kids to feed and dont get food, living, and so on for free i think its pretty fair that they want Money for this game.

I am wondering how some guys think they can get everything for free.

And I have a live to, and yeah a job where i earn enough money so i dont bugger around with "oh no, its not free stuff". And yes, i dont even pay real money for the Omega clones, because u can earn this easy in the game without beeing there 24/7.

So get your ass up, collect bottles or something if you are not able to earn the subscription fee ingame.
Valkyrie Harkonnen
Doomheim
#26 - 2016-11-25 21:32:59 UTC
Annette Durado wrote:
I'm a former player that has come back because the game is 'free'. I didn't really want to pay as Eve is just one of many games I am interested in (others are single player, one off cost and some MMOs that I bought to play).

So I log into the 'free' Eve and nothing is free. Any skill I need to develop requires a paid sub as I've got the basic ones already. The ships I already own, I can't fly because I need a sub.

So in effect, Eve isn't free to play, it's free to try and when you actually get a few skills, you cannot progress or do anything meaningful until you sub. Why not just extend the trail period for like, a month or two?



Like you said, its free to try.

Try EVE Online for FREE with 250.000 extra skill points here!
Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#27 - 2016-11-25 21:56:04 UTC
Annette Durado wrote:
Various toxic posts


The reason you are getting the reaction you got is because of your title and original post. You instantly opened with hostility and telling us how CCPs version isnt good enough for you. Get off your self entitlement trip, learn some respect, and how to talk to people and you will get much further in life. Your current attitude will get you nothing. Change the attitude or just assume everyone you interact with is "toxic".

Now im going to be nice and tell you how to play eve for free, since you were to busy ranting because it wasnt "free enough" to actually do anything outside of ranting.

1) Buy and fit a ship you can fly to do your PVE activity of choice.

2) Do PVE activity.

3) Save isk up.

4) Buy a PLEX off the market.

5) Activate said PLEX.

6) You now have 30 days of Omega clone.

7) Use Omega clone to earn more isk in shorter period of time

8) Repeat steps 4 - 7 on a monthly basis.


You have not spent any real money on the game. You now have full access to the game like everyone else. You will not have to spend any money on the game in the future as long as you earn enough for a plex a month. Which a decently skilled omega can do in less than 20 hours a month. You are now, for all intents and purposes, playing for FREE.


Kosomot
Player Vs Ore
Miners Of Independence
#28 - 2016-11-25 23:45:33 UTC
Maekchu wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Just having a different view isn't an attack.

Dude... it's 2016. Your different opinion is offensive to me!



Hilary Said so it must be true.

I think the best term to describe eve is freemium.

the idea is simple

here is a free portion of the game play as long as you like.

the longer you play the more likely it is you will convert to a subscription based model or use plex.

if 5% of new players convert to paying that looks good on CCP's bottom line and thats good growth for them.

I'm a HUGE Fan of the new players coming to the game.

Alpha clone brought me back, and 5 days in, boom 3 month sub.

that's what CCP is looking for.

I am a miner, mission runner, and explorer...

or as EVE Online would have it...

A Carebear!!
Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2016-11-25 23:51:49 UTC
Kosomot wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Just having a different view isn't an attack.

Dude... it's 2016. Your different opinion is offensive to me!



Hilary Said so it must be true.

I think the best term to describe eve is freemium.

the idea is simple

here is a free portion of the game play as long as you like.

the longer you play the more likely it is you will convert to a subscription based model or use plex.

if 5% of new players convert to paying that looks good on CCP's bottom line and thats good growth for them.

I'm a HUGE Fan of the new players coming to the game.

Alpha clone brought me back, and 5 days in, boom 3 month sub.

that's what CCP is looking for.




wasn't difficult to figure it out LOL
#MindGames
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2016-11-26 04:39:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
EVE is free to play, with restrictions on what you can use to play it. You can play the whole game, every aspect of it, you just can't use everything. But far be it for me and my 'toxicity' to remind you that giving you anything for free at all is more than you've paid for. I'd call that pretty generous of CCP, but of course, despite paying nothing, you're gonna feel ripped-off anyway. You won't see it this way, of course, but the only thing you are a victim of is your choice to be a victim here.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Vigirr
#31 - 2016-11-26 04:55:11 UTC
It's difficult to explain to the entitled and special snowflake masses that EVE doesn't come in pumpkin spice flavour, because it's not a game for the masses. Never was, never will or should be.

If you don't like it then you're FREE to not play it and stop bothering the ones who ARE playing it with your vitriol and toxicity.
Desari Lysette
Lysette Trading Group
#32 - 2016-11-26 05:20:35 UTC
Personally, i agree with SP capping Alpha's... but i disagree with all the restrictions. i mean 5m sp is a big ass restriction as it is. They should lift all those restrictions and let people put thier 5m wherever they want, so that they can experiance what they need in order to discover if they wish to continue on into being Omega's.
Vigirr
#33 - 2016-11-26 05:24:48 UTC
Desari Lysette wrote:
Personally, i agree with SP capping Alpha's... but i disagree with all the restrictions. i mean 5m sp is a big ass restriction as it is. They should lift all those restrictions and let people put thier 5m wherever they want, so that they can experiance what they need in order to discover if they wish to continue on into being Omega's.


You mean "for vets to have more useful alts for free".
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2016-11-26 05:49:09 UTC
I have a 2014 alt on this same account with 7.7 mil SP which I've used to kill any number of vets even when that alt had far less. The extra 2.7 mil SP is some cross-training, which alphas can't do. You'll never convince me that 5 mil SP as a limitation for a FREE GAME is in any way overly restrictive, sorry.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Sequester Risalo
German Corps of Engineers 17
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#35 - 2016-11-26 06:04:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Sequester Risalo
Annette Durado wrote:
I'm a former player that has come back because the game is 'free'. I didn't really want to pay as Eve is just one of many games I am interested in (others are single player, one off cost and some MMOs that I bought to play).

So I log into the 'free' Eve and nothing is free. Any skill I need to develop requires a paid sub as I've got the basic ones already. The ships I already own, I can't fly because I need a sub.

So in effect, Eve isn't free to play


So before the November expansion your character had all the same skills and your hangar had the same ships.

Could you play the game then? - No
Can you play it now? - Yes
Do you have to pay for playing now? - No

It is free to play. I completely understand that there are restrictions on Alpha clones as there must be some incentive to changing to Omega. If there wasn't, every player would change to alpha after some time.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2016-11-26 06:06:20 UTC
Annette Durado wrote:
Nat Silverguard wrote:
Annette Durado wrote:
I'm a former player that has come back because the game is 'free'. I didn't really want to pay as Eve is just one of many games I am interested in (others are single player, one off cost and some MMOs that I bought to play).

So I log into the 'free' Eve and nothing is free. Any skill I need to develop requires a paid sub as I've got the basic ones already. The ships I already own, I can't fly because I need a sub.

So in effect, Eve isn't free to play, it's free to try and when you actually get a few skills, you cannot progress or do anything meaningful until you sub. Why not just extend the trail period for like, a month or two?


what's wrong about it being unlimited?


I just think that saying the game is now 'Free to Play' is a bit misleading, as you cannot do the free stuff for long as you out-skill the free bits and need to sub, realistically.


It is free to play, progress is just restricted.

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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2016-11-26 07:20:59 UTC
Vigirr wrote:
Desari Lysette wrote:
Personally, i agree with SP capping Alpha's... but i disagree with all the restrictions. i mean 5m sp is a big ass restriction as it is. They should lift all those restrictions and let people put thier 5m wherever they want, so that they can experiance what they need in order to discover if they wish to continue on into being Omega's.


You mean "for vets to have more useful alts for free".

That is what a few of these threads have been about now. Nothing more than pushing more for alphas to get free alts for veterans.

The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.

After all we are not just players, we are customers.

Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#38 - 2016-11-26 07:34:17 UTC
Cybrupt YouTube wrote:
Paying to waste your time and life is a double slap in the face..


I've been paying since 09, what a total loser i am.

On to the next freebie-blowfly thread informing us that everybody other than them is an idiot.



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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#39 - 2016-11-26 07:49:20 UTC
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#40 - 2016-11-26 09:17:47 UTC
Annette Durado wrote:
I'm a former player that has come back because the game is 'free'. I didn't really want to pay as Eve is just one of many games I am interested in (others are single player, one off cost and some MMOs that I bought to play).

So I log into the 'free' Eve and nothing is free. Any skill I need to develop requires a paid sub as I've got the basic ones already. The ships I already own, I can't fly because I need a sub.

So in effect, Eve isn't free to play, it's free to try and when you actually get a few skills, you cannot progress or do anything meaningful until you sub. Why not just extend the trail period for like, a month or two?



All you can do is play the game?

Oh no :(

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016