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Why does the third alt in a OMEGA account can be trained like an Alpha

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MC Loviing
Straw Hats Enterprice
#1 - 2016-11-20 18:32:55 UTC
Why does the third alt in a OMEGA account can be trained like an Alpha account???

We are already paying the premium account why force me to have a second free account. im already paying 1 multicharacter training.

Ive just want him to be training something. Even if its slow and not all the skills.... better than nothing
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2016-11-20 18:37:02 UTC
MC Loviing wrote:
force me

whose forcing you to do anything ?
MC Loviing
Straw Hats Enterprice
#3 - 2016-11-20 18:39:56 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
MC Loviing wrote:
force me

whose forcing you to do anything ?



Lol pointless comment but i will indulge you.

I can set up a free account and set it to train stuff then transfer it to my account or keep that.... Its the same.... thats why the 'force " it.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2016-11-20 18:43:00 UTC
hmmmm yeah i still dont see where your being forced to do anything here
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
#5 - 2016-11-20 19:04:17 UTC
But no one is saying you HAVE to. You are just just staying you can. You already have multi toon training going on
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#6 - 2016-11-20 19:49:07 UTC
MC Loviing wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
MC Loviing wrote:
force me

whose forcing you to do anything ?



Lol pointless comment but i will indulge you.

I can set up a free account and set it to train stuff then transfer it to my account or keep that.... Its the same.... thats why the 'force " it.



Just because you don't see the point doesn't mean there isn't one. You still haven't justified your use of the word "force". Perhaps you should look the word up in a dictionary.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Salvos Rhoska
#7 - 2016-11-20 20:20:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
You dont understand the system.

On Alpha/Omega account, you can only train one character at a time.
Once Omega, you can invest in multitraining to train one or two more, simultaneously.

One Alpha account character, at a time, per account, can train at half the rate of an Omega character.
One Omega account character, at a time, can train at twice the rate (and no restrictions), of an Alpha account.s.

Your Omega accounts third character, is also an Omega character.
It will only train if you make it your training focus, or buy multiitraining for it.

Omega does not mean that ALL characters on that account train simultaneously.
Only one, which is your current choice.
Same applies to Alpha.

BUT

On an Omega account, ALL of the characters can use ALL their skills.
Whereas on an Alpha account, MOST skills are restricted..

Do you understand?
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#8 - 2016-11-20 20:21:19 UTC
Salvos Rhoska
#9 - 2016-11-20 20:31:49 UTC
All characters on an Omega account, train at Omega rates, if assigned as active training focus or multitrained.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#10 - 2016-11-20 20:44:31 UTC
One should never underestimate the creativity of entitlement.

Remove standings and insurance.

Salvos Rhoska
#11 - 2016-11-20 20:57:24 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
One should never underestimate the creativity of entitlement.

This is a nonsense statement.

OP just hadn't understood how the system works.
Princess Adhara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2016-11-21 02:29:20 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
One should never underestimate the creativity of entitlement.

This is a nonsense statement.

OP just hadn't understood how the system works.


Actually, Mara's statement makes sense.

The OP seems to understand how the system works.

He understands an Omega account will have one character training at full speed. Otherwise, why would he pay for multi-character training to have a second character training too?

He also understands an Alpha account has one character training at half speed, and only a limited set of skills, by paying nothing.

Having understood all of that, he is wondering why someone can have the first character on a not-paying account training, even if at half speed and only for a limited set of skills, while he can't have his third character, on his paying account plus one multi-character training certificate, training at the same speed and with the same restrictions as the first character on a not-paying account, because of... entitlement?
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#13 - 2016-11-21 04:32:14 UTC
The funny part would be what would stop CCP from allowing an Omega, read paid for account, train dual training at alpha speeds and only to alpha skills? Basically you would be splitting up the training as alpha training speeds are exactly half of omegas so technically youre getting the same SP just split on two accounts. Ironically you could make dual training a very interesting prospect with this system. You pay for the ability to train all accounts by paying for two and splitting one up.

So you would be paying for alpha training time on a paid account.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#14 - 2016-11-21 04:53:33 UTC
somebody pointing a gun in your head "forcing" you, OP?

entitled brats are entitled.

Just Add Water

Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#15 - 2016-11-21 05:00:23 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
One should never underestimate the creativity of entitlement.

This is a nonsense statement.

OP just hadn't understood how the system works.


NO, he understands and knows that you can only have 1 character training for SP per account (except if you use this).

he is just being greedy.


Just Add Water

TackyTachy1
Doomheim
#16 - 2016-11-21 07:45:10 UTC
I still haven't figured out the rationale behind having both Omega and Alpha characters. But I'm not ashamed to state that there are great swathes of the Eve Online experience that I've yet to figure out so it's no big deal that I'm clueless on the Omega/Alpha's. I can just stack them up with all the other stuff I'm clueless about; like Plex, Arum, extractors and all those exotic abbreviations that keep me running to internet search engines.

But I'm living proof that one can be bone ignorant and still have fun.

Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.

Rayit
Akadeimia Keipouron SVK
Apocalypse Now.
#17 - 2016-11-21 08:28:32 UTC
I think the request makes sense and would be a nice addition. Give us the ability to designate our Omega characters as Alpha if we choose to. Save us from needing separate Alpha accounts and allow us to do some basic training on an alt before paying for dual character training.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#18 - 2016-11-21 09:45:34 UTC
Rayit wrote:
I think the request makes sense and would be a nice addition. Give us the ability to designate our Omega characters as Alpha if we choose to. Save us from needing separate Alpha accounts and allow us to do some basic training on an alt before paying for dual character training.


dude stop, this is just being greedy...

the main purpose of alpha is for potential recruits/newbros to try out EvE without the limited time of 14 days.

Just Add Water

Rayit
Akadeimia Keipouron SVK
Apocalypse Now.
#19 - 2016-11-21 10:03:43 UTC
Nat Silverguard wrote:
dude stop, this is just being greedy...


Don't ask, don't get. There's nothing wrong with making a request. It would be a boring world if people didn't get "greedy" and try to improve things.

I'm sure plenty of people are opening second accounts to give themselves an Alpha character. This suggestion just cuts down on the "admin" involved.
Jonni Favorite
Militant Industrialists LLC
Militant Consortium
#20 - 2016-11-21 10:12:01 UTC
Rayit wrote:
I think the request makes sense and would be a nice addition. Give us the ability to designate our Omega characters as Alpha if we choose to. Save us from needing separate Alpha accounts and allow us to do some basic training on an alt before paying for dual character training.


But that's the essence of entitlement. The alpha program is not there to give you more options for your characters. It's a marketing campaign to entice new players into the game, while allowing veterans to still interact with the game at no cost and perhaps resub. OP is just whining.
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