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Megathron

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Teddy KGB
Red Warming
3200.
#1 - 2016-11-20 01:49:17 UTC
Hi. Since last Megathron rebalance i really hate the new ROF bonus for turrets. Before that Megathron was cap stable at 25% while using Neutron Blaster Cannons. And also had great damage bonus that saved some ammo. After damage was replaced with ROF i need to put much more ammo and less batteries and it really sucks..
That rebalance made this BS pretty nasty comparing to old one which had also extra high slot for energy neutrolizer.. on other hand 8th low-slot is nice, but otherwise makes Navy issue less attractive.

First of all i'll be really glad if CCP bring back old version of Mega with new HP and pg and cpu, or just bring back damage mod bonus if not than more cap regeneration or bigger cargo for batteries.

Would be also perfect if CCP finaly boost all Battleships, maybe with more HP and damage.
0/
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#2 - 2016-11-20 10:54:16 UTC
If a neutraliser is so much important to you, you can always fly an Armageddon instead.

Can you tell us what you think is wrong about the Megathron and why she needs more hp?

You said large neutron blasters and a rof bonus don't mix well because you shoot more ammo. What is it you are doing and how do you use your Megathron.

Maybe we can solve your problem.

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Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#3 - 2016-11-20 11:54:18 UTC
Sounds like you want to use a hyperion.

More cap, more mids (to compensate for lack of tracking), fewer turrets with better damage bonus, slot for a neut, the megas old drone bandwidth and more hp.

The new mega snipes or brawls. Dont fancy it much for solo though. Baltec1 may have some suggestions though.

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Iain Cariaba
#4 - 2016-11-20 13:10:59 UTC
Better suggestion, Teddy. Since you hate so much about this game, why don't you simply contract all your stuff to me, go find a game you do like, and stop trying to break EvE.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2016-11-20 16:45:21 UTC
What job is it doing?
Lienzo
Amanuensis
#6 - 2016-11-20 21:50:27 UTC
Do you remember when they decreased the size of ammo and missiles by 90%? It was awhile back.

Laser users didn't care either way, but they had a pretty big benefit in their ability to stay in the field for much greater amounts of time.

I don't view it as a problem as much as I see it as an opportunity to advance the utility of fleet hangars.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2016-11-20 21:58:19 UTC
Lienzo wrote:
Do you remember when they decreased the size of ammo and missiles by 90%? It was awhile back.

Laser users didn't care either way, but they had a pretty big benefit in their ability to stay in the field for much greater amounts of time.

I don't view it as a problem as much as I see it as an opportunity to advance the utility of fleet hangars.


I'm thinking they are feeding it cap charge 3200s.
FT Cold
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-11-21 02:28:29 UTC
I thought the RoF bonus to the mega was a nice upgrade. vOv
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#9 - 2016-11-21 15:32:48 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
What job is it doing?




Seriously? Fast tackle has been the main role of the megathron for like the last 5 years.
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2016-11-22 06:08:06 UTC
Have you tried changing ammo?
It may not be exactly the same as what you are talking about op but if you change to ammo that used less cap over something like antimatter you would get comparable damage from shooting more frequently even if the ammo is slightly weaker.
Slower harder hits versus lots of fast weaker hits
You'd save some cap maybe enough to narrowly be stable and get a small range boost and it'll probably end up being cheaper than buying the antimatter which always seems to be the most expensive hybrid charge.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2016-11-22 09:37:33 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
What job is it doing?




Seriously? Fast tackle has been the main role of the megathron for like the last 5 years.


Still trying to get a jump drive fitted.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#12 - 2016-11-22 11:10:40 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
....Seriously? Fast tackle has been the main role of the megathron for like the last 5 years.


Still trying to get a jump drive fitted.


No silly, jump-portal generator.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-11-22 15:22:33 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
....Seriously? Fast tackle has been the main role of the megathron for like the last 5 years.


Still trying to get a jump drive fitted.


No silly, jump-portal generator.


A full rack of officer RCU and 2 T2 ACR will give you the grid for a Jump portal generator. Then, you only have the ship calss restriction to deal with.

Lol
Teddy KGB
Red Warming
3200.
#14 - 2016-12-02 11:10:53 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
If a neutraliser is so much important to you, you can always fly an Armageddon instead.

Can you tell us what you think is wrong about the Megathron and why she needs more hp?

You said large neutron blasters and a rof bonus don't mix well because you shoot more ammo. What is it you are doing and how do you use your Megathron.

Maybe we can solve your problem.


The point is that mega was a gallentian battleship with gallentian damage damage bonus instead of this we have minmatar bonus at ROF thats all. Minmatars rarely use batteries so the can care a lot of ammo. Amarr ships dont need ammo however they use cap for shooting. Gallente ships use hybrid ammo that use cap but less than amarr and mega without ROF bonus was a perfect gallentian ship and all were in balance. since one day CCP started to do some real crap. Armageddon is one of the most stupid rebalance. gallente always were lords of drones, but now arma have drones like dominix and long range neuts! why domi don't have long range scram then? also old armageddon was much better than this crap. all ccp needed to do is just to raise some HP, pg,cpu and damage. thats all. but they desided to change everything. and this is bad in my opinion.
Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#15 - 2016-12-02 17:10:57 UTC
Teddy KGB wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
If a neutraliser is so much important to you, you can always fly an Armageddon instead.

Can you tell us what you think is wrong about the Megathron and why she needs more hp?

You said large neutron blasters and a rof bonus don't mix well because you shoot more ammo. What is it you are doing and how do you use your Megathron.

Maybe we can solve your problem.


The point is that mega was a gallentian battleship with gallentian damage damage bonus instead of this we have minmatar bonus at ROF thats all. Minmatars rarely use batteries so the can care a lot of ammo. Amarr ships dont need ammo however they use cap for shooting. Gallente ships use hybrid ammo that use cap but less than amarr and mega without ROF bonus was a perfect gallentian ship and all were in balance. since one day CCP started to do some real crap. Armageddon is one of the most stupid rebalance. gallente always were lords of drones, but now arma have drones like dominix and long range neuts! why domi don't have long range scram then? also old armageddon was much better than this crap. all ccp needed to do is just to raise some HP, pg,cpu and damage. thats all. but they desided to change everything. and this is bad in my opinion.


Take a moment to actually read ship info. Domi is still more drone focused than geddon. Geddon is an EWAR based battleship woth a drone bonus slapped on it.

Domi has 4 drone bonuses compared to the geddons 2. Domi will track better, at farther range than geddon. Plus it has a flexible slot layout.

The rest of your post is just you being mad at change. Train controlled burst and cap skills to 5, and learn to manage cap. Problem solved.

Lugh Crow-Slave
#16 - 2016-12-04 10:33:24 UTC
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
Teddy KGB wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
If a neutraliser is so much important to you, you can always fly an Armageddon instead.

Can you tell us what you think is wrong about the Megathron and why she needs more hp?

You said large neutron blasters and a rof bonus don't mix well because you shoot more ammo. What is it you are doing and how do you use your Megathron.

Maybe we can solve your problem.


The point is that mega was a gallentian battleship with gallentian damage damage bonus instead of this we have minmatar bonus at ROF thats all. Minmatars rarely use batteries so the can care a lot of ammo. Amarr ships dont need ammo however they use cap for shooting. Gallente ships use hybrid ammo that use cap but less than amarr and mega without ROF bonus was a perfect gallentian ship and all were in balance. since one day CCP started to do some real crap. Armageddon is one of the most stupid rebalance. gallente always were lords of drones, but now arma have drones like dominix and long range neuts! why domi don't have long range scram then? also old armageddon was much better than this crap. all ccp needed to do is just to raise some HP, pg,cpu and damage. thats all. but they desided to change everything. and this is bad in my opinion.


Take a moment to actually read ship info. Domi is still more drone focused than geddon. Geddon is an EWAR based battleship woth a drone bonus slapped on it.

Domi has 4 drone bonuses compared to the geddons 2. Domi will track better, at farther range than geddon. Plus it has a flexible slot layout.

The rest of your post is just you being mad at change. Train controlled burst and cap skills to 5, and learn to manage cap. Problem solved.




pardon my semantics but the geddon is not an EWAR ship neuts are not technically e-war. E-War is paints, ECM, point/scram, webs, damps and WD.

is this an important distinction? not here no is the distinction important enough to make even when not relevant to the current discussion? no. Did Lugh just want to post something at 3:33 AM after being blue balled by another T3d? maybe
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2016-12-04 11:09:40 UTC
Don't touch the Megathron. Except maybe to give it back the obnoxiously huge cow catchers it used to have on the front, rather than the moderately large ones it has not. Megathron is great as is.

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