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Alpha clone state ship question
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Ray Dubi
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-11-14 03:08:16 UTC
Yo I came here to ask if it was possible for a alpha state cloner to have the req to train up for a stealth bomber type of fit. Thanks for answering!
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#2 - 2016-11-14 03:10:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
No. Tech one and your racial frig-cruiser only, with the exception of a BC that I can't recall the name atm. If you already have the skills trained, then you don't lose them, but the stealth bomber won't fly with you in it.

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Ray Dubi
Doomheim
#3 - 2016-11-14 03:10:28 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
No. Tech one and your racial frig-cruiser only, with the exception of a BC that I can't recall the name atm.

oh alright then thanks.
Memphis Baas
#4 - 2016-11-14 03:21:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
List of trainable skills are at the bottom of this dev blog. Look under the Spaceship Command group to see what ships are available for each race.

In general, Alphas can only use T1 ships (up to cruiser) of their race, with T1 weapons of their race, and with T1 and possibly some T2 defenses. You can also use the Venture mining frigate, because it's a basic mining ship, and the Gnosis battlecruiser, because it's a special ship that has no skill requirements.

The Gnosis was given as a gift to everyone a few years ago, and it has minimal requirements so even newbies can use it. It was a one-time gift that we can't (re-)manufacture, so there will be fewer and fewer ships available as they get destroyed. Currently there are quite a few still available, at somewhat high but not impossible prices.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2016-11-14 03:53:08 UTC
cloaking and cyno skills were the fist two sets no one wanted alphas to have.
while it would in theory be a nice aspiration for an alpha newbro to have ,
the requisites for a bomber would be all kinds of broken for the rest of us to have access to on free accounts.

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Matthias Khenakhtre
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2016-11-14 04:41:09 UTC
I suspect it will inevitably be expanded to t1 battlecruisers and t1 mining barges.
If they wanna give everyone basic industry stuff and access to racial industrials I don't see why they'd limit mining to just the frigate when no one can t2 fit anything anyway
Battlecruisers can do higher level missions easier too which is an alpha clone friendly activity.
No ones gonna be doing any tech 2 or serious pvp with gimped skills and t1 ships.
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#7 - 2016-11-14 09:42:29 UTC
The Alpha State appears to me a mechanism to increase the amount of destruction in New Eden - not the amount of production. As CCP Rise demonstrated at Vegas with the adventures of Vegas Alpha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWuk7GDZsqs the Alphas can do some serious PVP.

The Gnosis is a fun ship and perfectly capable of running level 3 missions with Alpha skills. Currently selling at a small premium compared to standard T1 battlecruisers. That premium will likely disappear once people redeem their rewards tomorrow. These are limited edition ships but CCP is maintaining a good supply in the game. It wouldn't surprise me if they start adding the 5 run BPC's to loot tables for exploration sites.
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-11-14 18:58:52 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
List of trainable skills are at the bottom of this dev blog. Look under the Spaceship Command group to see what ships are available for each race.

In general, Alphas can only use T1 ships (up to cruiser) of their race, with T1 weapons of their race, and with T1 and possibly some T2 defenses. You can also use the Venture mining frigate, because it's a basic mining ship, and the Gnosis battlecruiser, because it's a special ship that has no skill requirements.

The Gnosis was given as a gift to everyone a few years ago, and it has minimal requirements so even newbies can use it. It was a one-time gift that we can't (re-)manufacture, so there will be fewer and fewer ships available as they get destroyed. Currently there are quite a few still available, at somewhat high but not impossible prices.


I remember the Gnosis getting BPCs that were dropping from some site or another. Could be wrong, but i believe thats also how they were produced.
Keno Skir
#9 - 2016-11-14 19:10:47 UTC
Matthias Khenakhtre wrote:
No ones gonna be doing any tech 2 or serious pvp with gimped skills and t1 ships.


People PvP in t1 ships mate. Then again you last played 7 years ago (?) so maybe you're just making baseless generalizations idk..

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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#10 - 2016-11-15 20:02:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Linus Gorp
Solonius Rex wrote:
I remember the Gnosis getting BPCs that were dropping from some site or another. Could be wrong, but i believe thats also how they were produced.

CCP handed the ships out to all active subscribers at one point and the Second Decade collectors edition (sold out) came with a 5-run bpc.

There is no in-game way to obtain copies for the Gnosis and there never was.

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-11-15 20:11:19 UTC
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:

No ones gonna be doing any tech 2 or serious pvp with gimped skills and t1 ships.


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