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PI Making Advaced Commodities are my calculations Correct
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Balding CEO
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-12-23 05:56:53 UTC
Need someone to verify if I am figuring this right.

I live in a WH with 2 Barren planets which we have our POCOs at with no Tax

I was looking at taking P3 and turning it into P4

My calculations so far

P3 Mats for P4 : 942,000 ISK
P4 Sale Price : 1,500,000 ISK

Profit Per Cycle: 579,000 ISK

So if I am making 579,000 ISK per cycle and can run 24 hr cycle I am looking at 13,000,000 ISK per day/ per processor does this sound correct.

As for the Planets I was looking to set up a launch pad for each 3 processors for a total of 9 processors.
Droxlyn
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-12-23 06:37:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Droxlyn
Selling 432/day of one p4 will be an interesting challenge at market prices and the price spread will change frequently. If your wormhole mates are making the p3s, that may help your demand. Remember, each one is 100m3, so you're trying to get 43,200/day out of your wormhole. You'll have a larger volume going into it to feed your monsters.
The 10% high-sec tax is competitive against JF costs out of null, low-sec security, and w-space difficulties.

Edit: PS, for your importing sanity, dedicate each LP with a single P3/P1 product. That way you don't have to split the stacks 3 ways. You'll be limited to 30 hour runs doing this, but it (sacrificing those last 3 hours)
Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#3 - 2011-12-23 13:53:28 UTC
3 LPs and 9 High-Tech processors. You better abandon this plan. In the long run the stress will kill you.

- 1LP per 3 processes that will last for max 33h
- If you do the MAX setup it will be hell for you (6 planets*9 processors)
- 129.600 m3 to export each day


You sad you got 2 Barren planets so I assume you don't have any Temperate planets so your caped at 2 planets*9 processes. As Droxlyn stated it'll be 43,200 m3/day to haul out. If I take a 2nd look at this its not that much work if you'll be making 250m ISK per day in the end.

I say go try it for 3-4 days ^_^ after that Jita will destroy your plans.

By your provided info you are planing to produce either Self-Harmonizing Power Cores or Wetware Mainframe. Buying 2.592 P3 materials per day for each type will prove to be hard to acquire. The Problems are:
- you need to buy the materials from market hubs
- setting up a Buy order for 2.592 units/day won't work
- the trading volumes for P3 are low and this will force you to buy at the SELL prices
- the stocks of P3 items are not that big either and you alone will be enough to drive the prices up
- after a week the profit won't be worth your time anymore


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Droxlyn
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-12-23 18:14:28 UTC
In Jita,
Wetware Mainframes have a good day when they break 4000 units traded. 432 represent 10% of the market or more for any given day.
SHPs have a good day when they break 4000 units traded as well.
The numbers get MUCH worse if you go to any other trade hubs.
I've also noticed that people with spreadsheets/apps tend to chase the highest % profit P4s and they seem to have very strong cycles of good and bad profitability.
Buying P3s is a dreadful idea, some of the products are having good days at 1000 units. Except for the two formerly-NPC seeded P3s, volumes are crap. Since you have 0% taxes POCOs, you could set up a fair number of factory planets with advanced factories on the non-barren ones to make your P3s from P2s or P1s. One Hard P4 requires 6 P3 (from p2) factories which require a total of 36 P2 factories (from P1) . A medium P4 requires 6 P3 factories and 24 P2 factories. An easy P4 requires 4 P3 factories and 16 P2 factories. 42 Advanced facilities, 30, and 20 respectively. You can make 1 hard P4 every 2 hours with a planet with 2 LPs and 21 advanced facilities. The medium P4s leave more room for LP/silos, and you can run an easy P4 from P1s at full speed.

Figure out how much it costs you in parts and taxes, decide on a % profit, set your sell order, and forget it. It may take a week or so for the shifting producers to fail to fill demand and yours will sell. The hard part is, you need that ISK to buy more raw materials.

Extracting your own P1s to build a P4 isn't efficient since there are frequently steps where selling lower levels and buying the next one up is more profitable. However, if your corp is big enough in the wormhole, this may help alleviate the import problem. Just remember to give them their cut of the isk.