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NPC Mining Operations have now begun on Singularity

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MechaLynx
#221 - 2016-11-14 02:08:54 UTC  |  Edited by: MechaLynx
elitatwo wrote:
Out of curiosity, do you lose standing if you shoot at them?

My Caldari and Amarr standing is very high and I don't wanna jinx that by shooting friendly mining ops.


From what we've noticed, you do, but only by shooting at destroying the barges or industrial - the loss is minimal, I'd say easily fixed by doing a couple l3s or something, probably not even that much (it's 0.1% for me).
MechaLynx
#222 - 2016-11-14 20:16:09 UTC
It would help if we had a few more details on what is the expected behavior in these npc mining fleets, so we can identify possible bugs. For example:


  • are they supposed to actually shortcycle their strip miners/mining lasers?
  • is the hauler supposed to warp off after collecting the ore?
  • is it normal to have a gimped response wing? (such as 3 cruisers and a frig instead of the full cruiser wing)


amongst possibly other things
Circumstantial Evidence
#223 - 2016-11-15 17:08:50 UTC
Why do the empire mining corps mining ships, have bounties? It does not seem necessary. it may be enough that they CAN be shot, and a choice players would make without extra impetus. [Lore explanation?] Why would CONCORD place bounties on highsec mining operations by Ducia Foundry, for example? I expected to see bounties only on the "pirate" factions mining operations.

Skyler Hawk
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#224 - 2016-11-15 19:08:21 UTC
Circumstantial Evidence wrote:
Why do the empire mining corps mining ships, have bounties? It does not seem necessary. it may be enough that they CAN be shot, and a choice players would make without extra impetus. [Lore explanation?] Why would CONCORD place bounties on highsec mining operations by Ducia Foundry, for example? I expected to see bounties only on the "pirate" factions mining operations.


If you need an RP explanation, just pretend that rival NPC mining corps have issued the bounties to encourage capsuleers to stamp out their competition.
Rioste Ambraelle
The Draconis Combine
#225 - 2016-11-15 23:34:58 UTC
Over an hour now and no hauler spawn. I guess these ventures have what, 100,000 m3 cargo and a civilian mining laser. Last spawn we found took about 45 minutes and dropped one metal scrap. Ummm.....CCP this is not fun.
Gugutka
Doomheim
#226 - 2016-11-16 19:45:00 UTC
What are their names?

Only Ducia and Poksu or?
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#227 - 2016-11-17 00:01:12 UTC
MechaLynx wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
Out of curiosity, do you lose standing if you shoot at them?

My Caldari and Amarr standing is very high and I don't wanna jinx that by shooting friendly mining ops.


From what we've noticed, you do, but only by shooting at destroying the barges or industrial - the loss is minimal, I'd say easily fixed by doing a couple l3s or something, probably not even that much (it's 0.1% for me).


Thanks! That was what I was looking for.

And my first impression from thee live server from last night:

Somewhere in Stain an asteroid belt had a npc mining fleet going. After assembling a nice gang to investigate we were observing the following:

- 6x True Sansha Skiffs mining lots of ore

- 6x True Sansha Skiffs move from asteroid to asteroid like an isboxer account

- after 37 minutes of watching this mining op, a bestower warps in and slowboats from Skiff to Skiff

A brave saber pilot drops a bubble on 4x Skiffs, 2x Skiff warp of, just like regular nullsec bear miner. Killing 4x Skiffs is hard work but at least they forgot they have a drone-bay, just like regular nullbear.

The bestower drops ore and scrap metal. The skiffs from ore and explode with a nice bang.

The "revenge" gang warps in and seem to make good target calling.

Result:
Some ore and less than 5m isk in bounty - almost worth the time.


Blitzing result from today:

Observe mining op. Observe mining op for a long time. Bestower warps in. Kill Bestower like regular bestower with a human pilot or it will escape.
5x mining barge warp away like kittens.

Once the bestower goes down, warp away and get hauler. Collect ore and wait for the next npc mining op to mine for you.

Gun mining, easy mode.

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Joten Koldani
Independence Construction
#228 - 2016-11-17 00:25:16 UTC
3 gurista haulers down. Woo!

So far, nothing but scraps and ore : (

Am I doing it wrong?
MechaLynx
#229 - 2016-11-17 01:31:21 UTC
Joten Koldani wrote:
3 gurista haulers down. Woo!

So far, nothing but scraps and ore : (

Am I doing it wrong?


Nope, the strongboxes don't drop every time.
Xykyc Hukuc
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#230 - 2016-11-17 14:56:28 UTC
Like seriously whats the point of this? Why add content which does not bring anything of a value and is super complicated to complete?
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#231 - 2016-11-17 22:16:35 UTC
Xykyc Hukuc wrote:
Like seriously whats the point of this? Why add content which does not bring anything of a value and is super complicated to complete?


It does bring a lot, you just cannot see it.

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Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#232 - 2016-11-22 10:30:51 UTC
The first NPCs that you can combat probe down Shocked
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
#233 - 2016-11-22 11:10:13 UTC
killed teen blood raider haulers three strongbox three empty .
DaOpa
Static Corp
#234 - 2016-11-23 14:32:38 UTC

Looks like the Arbitrator Attack range is bugged out, its hitting at 200KM out with lasers.

Heres a video clip

Seems like a bug right? Should I bug report it? What do ya think?

Anyone else notice any weird range attacks from other NPC groups? I have been doing the amarr guys only at the moment.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#235 - 2016-11-24 09:30:26 UTC
DaOpa wrote:

Looks like the Arbitrator Attack range is bugged out, its hitting at 200KM out with lasers.

Heres a video clip

Seems like a bug right? Should I bug report it? What do ya think?

Anyone else notice any weird range attacks from other NPC groups? I have been doing the amarr guys only at the moment.

I've had Caldari Navy Faction NPC 'wreck' me with blasters from like 300+ kilometers on Tranquility.

Such things like damping from 100+ kilometers from Serpentis T1 cruiser in lvl4 missions Shocked

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knoba knoba
Explosive Cynosural Fields
Domain Research and Mining Inst. Logistics
#236 - 2016-11-24 23:53:11 UTC
so looks like arbitrator crusiers are making dmg even at 10k km form them ????

"Working as inteded" or just another bug ????



http://i.imgur.com/DNhm3YX.png
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#237 - 2016-11-26 12:05:24 UTC
knoba knoba wrote:
so looks like arbitrator crusiers are making dmg even at 10k km form them ????

"Working as inteded" or just another bug ????



http://i.imgur.com/DNhm3YX.png


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Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#238 - 2016-11-28 20:11:53 UTC
Xykyc Hukuc wrote:
Like seriously whats the point of this? Why add content which does not bring anything of a value and is super complicated to complete?


I have done five of these on sisi so far, three of which was in null and at first they were fun but then when I find out I get no strong box drops I quit , the AI is good though and logi spider tanks but with no reward without strong box drops I won't do them on TQ.

On a side note, anybody get a BS spawn yet after they pop the hauler.? Best I have gotten was cruiser sized.

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.

Don Pera Saissore
#239 - 2016-12-01 15:34:30 UTC
We need a way to ignore them while combat probing. There is a lot of them in a system and they can clutter the scanner window
Witchking Angmar
Perkele.
#240 - 2016-12-01 23:30:41 UTC
Cargo scanning the miners shows nothing even if they have been mining for hours. Is this intentional?