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NPC Mining Operations have now begun on Singularity

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CCP Paradox
#201 - 2016-11-08 16:53:05 UTC
True Creations (Sansha's Nation) have now started their mining operations on Singularity. Be careful if you're by yourself, they have sharp edges.

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FearlessLittleToaster
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#202 - 2016-11-08 17:16:49 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Be careful if you're by yourself, they have sharp edges.



You don't need to issue warnings like this man! One of my most memorable Eve experiences was the time I took my carrier into a C3 wormhole to rat because I had a carrier now and what could possibly beat that? This taught me the value of research in Eve Online, the game that wants to make you cry.

You make it too easy on the new kids when you give them all these warm fuzzy warnings about stuff that will murder them in the face. Big smile
Turelus
Utassi Security
Second State
#203 - 2016-11-08 17:30:52 UTC
Sorry not kept up with things recently I was saving Skyrim from Dragons and Nationalist Nords.

Do the Pirate faction NPCs mine in Empire space or just their own space? Might be a stupid question. Roll

Turelus CEO Utassi Security

Arronicus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#204 - 2016-11-08 23:57:18 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
almost fiction wrote:
lol having hunted hauler spawns for the past 2 days solid on test server. if these things are the only source of harvester drones then my god theyre going to be expensive. only about one in three haulers dropped a strongbox
each hauler took at least 2 hours to hunt and then only one of the strongboxes i got dropped a harvester BPC

RIP harvesters hardly knew thee

(a wise man would make the strongbox drop from the defense fleet)

also elite drone AI is gonna plummet in price due to these BPCs being the bottleneck




To be clear here, Harvesters are the faction mining drones. Not the ones the Rorqs use (extractor drones)

They're not new. They used to sometimes drop from convoys. But that stopped a long time ago. so it's a reintroduction of a very old drone type (with a shiny new paint job :D )


This. There is absolutely no bottleneck whatsoever on the supply of the new excavator drone blueprints.
Doddy
Excidium.
#205 - 2016-11-09 13:14:08 UTC
Chan'aar wrote:
Will the factions stick to their own regions ? ie you will only see Caldari miners in Caldari systems ? or will they move around at random?

Still no comment about taking faction standing hits for shooting at these ......


It is related to the corp, so where you for example have caldari stations in amarr space you have the possibility of caldari spawns in amarr sov.
Doddy
Excidium.
#206 - 2016-11-09 13:17:40 UTC
almost fiction wrote:
lol having hunted hauler spawns for the past 2 days solid on test server. if these things are the only source of harvester drones then my god theyre going to be expensive. only about one in three haulers dropped a strongbox
each hauler took at least 2 hours to hunt and then only one of the strongboxes i got dropped a harvester BPC

RIP harvesters hardly knew thee

(a wise man would make the strongbox drop from the defense fleet)

also elite drone AI is gonna plummet in price due to these BPCs being the bottleneck



Well even that that low drop it will make the currently very rare harvester drones much cheaper wont it .......
CCP Paradox
#207 - 2016-11-09 15:39:03 UTC
I have now enabled the Salvation Angels (Angel Cartel) mining operations on Singularity. Have fun!

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Space Magician

Inspector General
The Dark Space Initiative
#208 - 2016-11-09 17:10:16 UTC
I think this Thukker Mix Retriever wing got lost.

http://imgur.com/5LJVdTS

CCP Paradox
#209 - 2016-11-09 17:20:24 UTC
Inspector General wrote:
I think this Thukker Mix Retriever wing got lost.

http://imgur.com/5LJVdTS



Not lost, they do wander to systems close by where they are settled. In this case, Doril is a few jumps away from one of their stations. Which means that mining ops can happen across Sovereignty so to speak.

CCP Paradox | EVE QA | Team Phenomenon

Space Magician

Ncc 1709
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#210 - 2016-11-10 00:15:54 UTC
are there any plans for Rouge drone mining ops?
CCP Larrikin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#211 - 2016-11-10 09:02:56 UTC
Ncc 1709 wrote:
are there any plans for Rouge drone mining ops?


Yes, but not for the Ascension Release.

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unimatrix0030
Mass Collapse
It Must Be Jelly Cause Jam Don't Shake
#212 - 2016-11-10 11:34:06 UTC
CCP Larrikin wrote:
As of today on Sisi:
  • You'll be-able to see the Mining Ops on your directional scanner, or probe them down.
  • We've altered the coloration of the MIning Ops NPC standings bracket coloration to better follow player overview standards:
Red/Orage = Hostile
White = Neutral
Light Blue/Dark Blue = Friendly

Does this mean that drifters in wh's also be on d-scan and probe-able?

No local in null sec would fix everything!

Darenthul
Anstard Armory Inc.
#213 - 2016-11-11 00:13:06 UTC
Any plans for Mordu's Legion ops?

"I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker

Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#214 - 2016-11-11 09:11:56 UTC
Darenthul wrote:
Any plans for Mordu's Legion ops?

They are mercs Roll

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Darenthul
Anstard Armory Inc.
#215 - 2016-11-11 17:03:15 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Darenthul wrote:
Any plans for Mordu's Legion ops?

They are mercs Roll


They still use materials and have their own operations.. I don't think its a stretch to think they might go out and mine once in a blue moon. If any of these other pirate factions can do it, they can too.

"I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker

El Geo
Warcrows
Shattered Foundations
#216 - 2016-11-12 20:30:52 UTC  |  Edited by: El Geo
I hope there is a plan to have some sort of dynamic system with these NPC's, I could think of a few ways myself.
Joten Koldani
Independence Construction
#217 - 2016-11-13 14:48:53 UTC
Do we ever take the time to sit back and appreciate how pretty EVE is? Good job CCP : ) Neat looking op!

https://gyazo.com/15a6e7ef72cfc11473a06b240986d07e
MechaLynx
#218 - 2016-11-13 19:30:31 UTC
Not sure if hauler spawns are working as intended. Me and a bunch of corpmates have been waiting for the hauler to come by for 8 Thukker Skiffs in X-M2LR for about and hour and 15 minutes now, spent a lot of time off the belt dscanning it to see if anything shows up, travelled to nearby Thukker stations in case a hauler was moving around, nothing at all.

If the hauler spawn rate is intended to lower the availability of the drops, just lower the drop rate of the strongboxes. If the ore holds of the npcs are full, they should either just warp off or have a hauler pop in almost guaranteed within 10 minutes. Much better than just waiting around forever for something that might never happen.

Also, the skiffs seem to be trying to cycle their strip miners and they're shutting off - I'm guessing this means their ore holds are full (which they would be for about an hour now, since I noticed) or they're shortcycling them. Any official word on whether they do that?
MechaLynx
#219 - 2016-11-13 22:39:44 UTC
By the way, since it seems all barges are doing the same game with their strip miners, are you adjusting their mining rate by modulating the duty cycle of their strip miners? If so, I'd rather you gave them mining penalties instead. At the EVE Vegas presentation you said you'd like PVE skills to translate to PVP skills, but here, we get this very misleading behavior - are they bugged? Are their holds full and they're still trying to cycle their strip miners waiting for the hauler? Are they trying to avoid mining the roids? I agree that PVE skills should translate to PVP, but this is the opposite of what would happen in PVP unless all the barges were bait at the same time (in which case they wouldn't have 2 strip miners most likely).

I know you probably want to keep the complexity of the AI down so that server-side resources are consumed at a minimum for things like this, but if you could make the AI on the npc miners a tad more sophisticated, so there is actual behavior to observe (such as them mining different roids instead of seeing packs of 3 on the same one, dancing back and forth as they keep the roid at the same range, or moving towards where the hauler will land once they're done) it would be far deeper. It's good that the response fleets are challenging, but this is a good opportunity to not make this another throwaway PVE site experience, that might seem obsolete by mid-December (like what happened with the dailies).
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#220 - 2016-11-14 01:02:55 UTC
Out of curiosity, do you lose standing if you shoot at them?

My Caldari and Amarr standing is very high and I don't wanna jinx that by shooting friendly mining ops.

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