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Leadership Skills Obsolete?

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Aexeron
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-10-25 17:32:23 UTC
With the removal of fleet hierarchy, and the bonuses associated with them (passive or active), it seems that the traditional fleet command skills (Leadership > Wing Command > Fleet Command) are now obsolete.

In my opinion, we should simply boil these skills down to the Leadership skill. I doubt many pilots would be terribly enthusiastic about training for several months just for the ability to warp fleets, when you could do so regardless.
Demolishar
United Aggression
#2 - 2016-10-25 19:54:32 UTC
Why don't you try actually reading the dev blog.
pajedas
Doomheim
#3 - 2016-10-25 20:28:12 UTC
Demolishar wrote:
Why don't you try actually reading the dev blog.

There's a term for being a Richard when you don't have to and/or it's not necessary.

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2016-10-25 21:59:29 UTC
They are not obsolete, they received completely different bonuses in return that are very useful for anyone leading fleets. And no, you're not getting them refunded.

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pajedas
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-10-25 22:28:53 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
And no, you're not getting them refunded.

Not up to you, is it?

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2016-10-25 22:44:38 UTC
pajedas wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
And no, you're not getting them refunded.

Not up to you, is it?


Nope. But it is up to CCP. And CCP says...

You're not getting them refunded.

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pajedas
Doomheim
#7 - 2016-10-25 23:05:19 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
Nope. But it is up to CCP. And CCP says...

You're not getting them refunded.

I should have known that someone from Cartman's Fleet wouldn't spot the rhetorical nature of my post.

Do goons have "any" standards?

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Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#8 - 2016-10-26 03:41:39 UTC
First, they are right. CCP spelled it out clear as noon day with no clouds in the sky about how the skills were being redone and no longer effected the number of F1 chimps your fleet can field with boost. Now your chimps will need to learn to fly as well as press F1, all while staying as close to the booster ship(s) as a mallard duck to a females back end.

It is all in a dev blog which as I am laying in bed and smashing little keys on my iPhone I am to lazy to go and find for you. But SP will not be refunded. Though I believe players should be accountable for their skill choices and not the whims of development. Sadly I don't have the real world sssets or a Super to take to Iceland and buy their number one export. So, get used to change and carry some KY jelly

"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-10-27 04:24:52 UTC
pajedas wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
Nope. But it is up to CCP. And CCP says...

You're not getting them refunded.

I should have known that someone from Cartman's Fleet wouldn't spot the rhetorical nature of my post.

Do goons have "any" standards?


Maybe if you could get Concord to write your forum posts for you (you know, in addition to scoring all of your kills for you), you wouldn't have this problem.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

pajedas
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-10-27 17:00:16 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Maybe if you could get Concord to write your forum posts for you (you know, in addition to scoring all of your kills for you), you wouldn't have this problem.

Did I point you on a gate little monkey?

Please don't be upset.

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-10-27 17:50:36 UTC
pajedas wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Maybe if you could get Concord to write your forum posts for you (you know, in addition to scoring all of your kills for you), you wouldn't have this problem.

Did I point you on a gate little monkey?

Please don't be upset.


Pretty sure I've never encountered you in game, I'm just still not done mocking you for posting your hilarious killboard of 100% concord kills as evidence of your "success". Lol

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

pajedas
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-10-27 20:59:17 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Pretty sure I've never encountered you in game, I'm just still not done mocking you for posting your hilarious killboard of 100% concord kills as evidence of your "success". Lol

Reading is hard...but it's never too late to learn.

Take a closer look weed-hopper.

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2016-10-27 21:47:00 UTC
pajedas wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Pretty sure I've never encountered you in game, I'm just still not done mocking you for posting your hilarious killboard of 100% concord kills as evidence of your "success". Lol

Reading is hard...but it's never too late to learn.

Take a closer look weed-hopper.


You're an angry little man, aren't you?

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pajedas
Doomheim
#14 - 2016-10-28 11:37:08 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
You're an angry little man, aren't you?

Not angry and 6' 198 lbs.

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