EVE General Discussion

Anyone notice prices going up a bit much? The problem I think is people control the market through immense amounts of isk just throwing buy orders out right below where they want the prices, they get the items they hold the market and what can you do? Oh manufacture and sell some? Not a chance you're going to lower the prices with a small indy corp of yourself and 10 alts, you'll get what the markets are set at and make the manipulators even more money.



Someone's getting greedy is all. Maybe someone pissed at the gambling ban? Or is it the new players who "might" come causing the change?

You should read a book on economics to get the full grasp of whats going on in the even market...CCP has 5 economist on the payroll to keep the market in check and even then, thing still get out of hand from time to time.

The big under lining issue with eve economy is hyperinflation because eventually the money get funnelled to the big corporations in null sec and just doesnt go anywhere untill a major even arises. while at the other end of the spectrum, players running missions are essentially generating ISK out of thin air. EVE online does have an inflation issue but its an issue they try to keep under control because there is no real way to prevent it.

As for market manipulation, it happens and is perfectly legel. Best thing you can do is compete on the market to adjest the prices.

I build stuff I think people could use and sell it at the nearest tradehub. Hek is the best if you want to throw your cheap crap around because nobody cares enough to actually fight back against your small order and some even run away if you get aggressive enough. That and random sales on **** you got in null somehow. I stay too small to matter and watch for someone attempting to grab a high price with my slightly lower than theirs.

PL for that hauler kill tho, such a dirty trick I should have had no reason to warp at distance but I did, and they had pandemic horde cloaked in everything with prototype cloaks, a newbie cloak mine D:

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Prices always go up. Battleships cost 80 mil a few years ago. PLEX 400 mil.
It all depends on the number of ISK grinders. On the Chinese server a PLEX cost ~3 billion a while ago (probalby more now).
I wonder how many grinders we get with the F2P expansion. F2P games tend to have a lot of hardcore grinders. I wouldnt be surprised if a PLEX cost 3 billion in 1 year. But CCP would probably intervene if prices skyrocket.

Grinding with an alpha will be extremely inefficient given the skill cap.

The costs of battleships across time are not directly comparable given changes to mining, drone poo, mission loot drops, and so forth.

As for PLEX, think of it this way, how much ISK could a player per day to afford a PLEX? If a PLEX costs 1.2 billion the player has to make 40 million/day. To the extent that there are enough players who can generate that kind of ISK on a daily basis PLEX prices will rise. A counter to that is that some players will see that high price as sufficient to use RL money to buy a PLEX and then sell it in game. That some players might use that ISK to engage in further ISK generating activities it can end up leading to additional demand for PLEX in game.

Also, it is not appropriate to make a comparison to PLEX prices on the Chinese server to those on Tranquility. We do not know if that high price is due to higher demand than on Tranquility or lower supply or even some of both. They are two totally separate markets, so just because the price is 3 billion in Serenity does not mean we that it will have to be that high on Tranquility someday.

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CCP Quant publishes an economic report every month. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/monthly-economic-report-sept-2016/ If you scroll down to the economic indices chart you will see that the CPI (consumer price index) in New Eden has been falling for the past 2 years.

Some prices have experienced spikes - Citadels soaked up all the surplus PI; WWB temporarily cut the supply of moon material. These events are over and prices are returning to normal but we'll see a lot of new structures over the next year so PI in particular will probably remain elevated.

We've also experienced a significant increase in brokerage and transaction fees which has been passed on to consumers. This is 100% CCP - I see nothing that would require a player conspiracy to explain.

they have put an inflation safe system in place already.
It's called the palatine keepstar.
When a certain level of isk is reached in-game some one will attempt to build this. And instantly remove a huge % of isk from the universe.

not to mention the line of faction super capitals that are entirely isk sinks both already in game and coming. The new re balance towards promoting super capital conflict via easier construction. And the not so far off alliance built gates that will presumably be fairly expensive.


the problem and thing people forget is Eve is a fake economy that at one end has money out of thin air.
On the other end is the money sinks. We have rapid inflation atm because the rate of isk gain has increased for years. The high end isk sinks have not been added to until now. just a rebalnce nothing to worry about