Missions & Complexes

I am trying to figure out how the mechanic works that allows someone to pop into your site and steal your BC spawn even tho I can lock and get damage on it first.. I am flying a Navy Vexor so pretty much all drone damage, I figured that the drones were takeing to long to get to the target even if I had it locked first so I put a rail gun on there to get DPS as soon as the target is locked and that doesn't seem to work.

What am I doing wrong here? I am not so much interested in ganking people as I am defending my site against someone who wants to gank me.

You're right. MY

So if we both shoot at it the person who gets to it first can loot it without suspect flag?

It's yellow to me even after I shoot at it.

It is not who shot if first, it is who shot it last who gets it.

Nope, last hit... easily testable, get an alt into frigate and start shooting an rat, stop when it is at 5% hull, finish it off with your main, your main will own the wreck.

So what you can do it this case - learn your adversary and time your shoots. Figure out how much damage you can at once and go from there. For example, my confessor can kill that BC in 3-4 shots. I know that if armor of that BC is below 30% I will definitely kill it. Once I am in room with drone boat I can just wait till it is at around 50% and activate my guns. By the time my ship fires drones will most likely take that 20% diff and I will finish it. But I also met guy in Naga who could kill it as soon as shields are gone in one shot in which case I risk and let him fire first, then overheat my guns and fire as well. Sometimes he killed the rat with alpha damage (full volley damage from your guns) alone and sometimes the rat would stay in hull in which case I would finish it.

Anyways, figure out what works for your situation and apply it.

Just a little more information to clarify this.

Loot and salvage need to be discussed separately,because it is always legal to salvage a wreck anywhere in space and it's color does not matter. But then salvaging requires the use of a salvage beam or salvage drones.

Abandoned wrecks (blue color) are always legal for anyone and everyone to loot or salvage so they are not relevant here other than as a casual mention.

Now on to the rest.
There is much confusion on this and the one link I had that discussed it in a semi official way was removed when CCP shut down the old EvE-lopedia. A quick search only finds debates on various forums that list both side of the argument as the real truth, in absence of any definitive statements from CCP I will go with my personal observations based on high sec mission and site running.
I have shot an NPC down to a few percent of structure and then lost the bounty to another player while I reload.
I have warped into a mission / site and fired a single shot at a NPC battleship and received the bounty.
Based on many years of this happening I have to believe that wreck ownership is determined by who fired the last shot and no other factors matter.

I find it highly unlikely that the other player was there to gank you, usually gankers do not bother with looting wrecks simply because what ever they may pick up only has a 50% chance of surviving their destruction by Concord. They may have been a scout / warp in point for a gank squad, came in to see what you were flying and decide if you were worth losing ships over and decided to see what was there for the taking instead.

The two most likely options for your case are the ninja looter thing and someone hoping to bait you into a fight by stealing from you.

Awesome thanks for all the replies, it has cleared up my concerns for sure. Despite how fast my Navy Vexor kills ****, it's probably not the best ship for contesting a site.

Nope, I'll back this one. Final blow gets it.

Edit: or maybe I'll just test it. That is my understanding though. Really makes me question how **** poor some of the Gila fits I've been contesting against are though.

When someone else is in the site I don't shoot the BC at all, instead I check how much damage the other player does over time, and then with a single well-timed shot get the wreck. It's definitely the last shot.