EVE General Discussion

While there might be some merit in rethinking how high security works, and also how it works with regards to -10.0 sec status, making it a super safe opposition free dream land is not the way to go about it.

Well, they're called Catalyst Partners for a reason. People want different things from their investments. Some people expect quick profits, some people just want to shiptoast, so what?

CCP develops their single-universe PvP game how they choose. Sure, they seek input and direction from the community of players, but it is the company who is responsible for the game design decisions and it is their employees and shareholders whose livelihoods and assets depend on it's continued success. There is not some small cabal of players in some dark room pulling the strings and making CCP make decisions and take directions that it does not want to do.

Feel free to invent conspiracy theories and direct your anger against other players for the fact the product is something else than what you personally want, but it is CCP who should be the target of your discontent. It was CCP who set out to design a full-time, competitive PvP sandbox game so many years ago. It is CCP is continues to follow that vision and make an everyone vs. everyone game where nowhere is safe, and the whole world can be considered a PvP zone. Besides, from all accounts it seems that it is the players begging for CCP to rework their PvP sandbox into a theme-park game for them that are in the minority.

We already have that. Highsec is very safe: it is almost impossible to die in highsec if you take any active steps to protect yourself. Lowsec is much riskier, but there is still some protection from certain weapons, and punishment for illegal acts, and there is space where there is none of that. Players can choose where they want to play.

It's true there is no safesec, but there never was intended to be in New Eden. I don't see how you have contrived a history of Eve where a "small, vocal group of players" got safesec removed from the game or something.

No it can't really. A "safe space" and a full-time, open world PvP sandbox are indeed mutually exclusive. You can't give a safe, useful space in this type of game without it being overrun by veteran players looking to make an invulnerable income source depriving the game of conflict and content.

I suggest you leave the game design to the professionals and just worry about finding a game that suits your wants and needs, instead of agitating for game developers to toss out their vision and tailor their game specifically to you. That might mean that Eve Online is not for you, like it is not the game for the majority of gamers out there. There is no shame in that - different strokes for different folks and all that.

can we make this a meme?

Nah, seriously, even though when i'm at a rave it's great to listen to people talk about DJing and make suggestions, i still need to see from what basis you're saying that your suggestions would be good for the game.
Just calling me a troll doesn't help your case one bit.


I just checked your kb, which i do very rarely. Clearly this thread is a stupid troll and you're part of that lame ecosystem supported by hisec chokes.
Shame on me for taking you seriously.

I am suprised pejedus has not embarrassed himself out of EVE yet.
He's a very salty and angry player, usually they self destruct early on.

Exact opposite.

CCP have found 85% of new people who quit do so having done no PvP. At the same time people who lose their ships to ganking are more likely to stay with the game for much longer. We have also seen subs drop as PvP has been removed from highsec over the last 5 years while the time before that EVE did nothing but grow every year making it the only MMO to see that kind of growth in the market while countless other MMOs that followed the PvE model all bled the bulk of their subs a matter of months after launching.

Looking at the evidence we have it all points to CCP needing to add more PvP to highsec not less. We need all of that content that has been removed returned to highsec.

I was going to write something fancy in reply to the OP, but (as usual) Black Pedro got there first.

So Padejas, all I have is this; a snippet of anatomy you'd do well to ponder.

If you travel far enough up your own alimentary canal, you'll reach your mouth; there, you'll be able to exit in the form of words and phrases, all quite tainted, however, with whatever you've gathered along the way.

But you, Padejas, appear not to let this discourage you, for here you are again, using the forums as a soap-box for your eccentric ideas.

And bathing it all with an odour the origin of which I've sought to describe, above.

sec should probably matter in game, but it really doesn't.

Remove all asteroid belts from high sec and make wardecs free is what I'm reading in-between the lines here.

Sounds good to me, but that's because I'm insulated from it lol

There's nothing wrong with Uedama that some proper planning and use of the available tools can't fix.