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Cruiser Mining?
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#21 - 2016-10-14 21:12:07 UTC
Uriam Khanid wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
Uriam Khanid wrote:
i did some tests.
Arbitrator/Vexor with alpha skill mine +100m3 compare to a Venture. But if your pimp Vexor (example) - you will be able to mine ~800+ m3. As alpha.


You forgot to account for the time cost. Offloading to a hauler costs time, manually bringing your ore to station costs even more time. Also people tend to overlook travel times for drones. If you want to mine an asteroid not directly in front of you, you lose a lot of time compared to just retargeting with a laser.

But anyway, if people start mining in "pimped Vexors" I foresee the price for Catalysts rising...


i am not forgot everything. How to mine (container or station) will be decide by alpha's. In my calculations i used ''station''(bringing ore to station) variant. it's 25k+ m3 of ore by ''usial'' arbitrator



Well, I guess if your predictions come true a collossal slaughter of alphas on the hand of gankers will commence, since your pimped cruisers will be a prime target for everyone. Hell, this scenario even tempts me and I'm normally bored to death by the idea of ganking miners.
Uriam Khanid
New Machinarium Corporation
#22 - 2016-10-15 16:25:21 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:

Well, I guess if your predictions come true a collossal slaughter of alphas on the hand of gankers will commence, since your pimped cruisers will be a prime target for everyone. Hell, this scenario even tempts me and I'm normally bored to death by the idea of ganking miners.


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Cepheus Antollare
Guns-R-Us Toy Company
Weapons Of Mass Production.
#23 - 2016-11-18 03:47:42 UTC
Uriam Khanid wrote:
i did some tests.
Arbitrator/Vexor with alpha skill mine +100m3 compare to a Venture. But if your pimp Vexor (example) - you will be able to mine ~800+ m3. As alpha.


what fit are you using ?
Musashi Date
#24 - 2016-11-19 16:32:09 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:
Uriam Khanid wrote:
i did some tests.
Arbitrator/Vexor with alpha skill mine +100m3 compare to a Venture. But if your pimp Vexor (example) - you will be able to mine ~800+ m3. As alpha.


You forgot to account for the time cost. Offloading to a hauler costs time, manually bringing your ore to station costs even more time. Also people tend to overlook travel times for drones. If you want to mine an asteroid not directly in front of you, you lose a lot of time compared to just retargeting with a laser.

But anyway, if people start mining in "pimped Vexors" I foresee the price for Catalysts rising...


This is one of the things that is often overlooked: The more time you spend actually mining (i.e. laser on asteroids) the more isk you make. Travel time is simply.. inefficient. Just add up the mine-till-full + warping to station + aligning (or pre-align to skip this!) + docking + unloading + undocking + warping back + aligning + locking time totals. This time spent on not mining steadily stacks up and before you know it, you've made 3 unloading trips, vs. 5 unloading trips.

With the Venture travelling at 5au(base) and a dedicated 5,000m3 ore hole, you'll just simply get more.
Zumbas Egdald
Atlantis Industrial Ltd
#25 - 2016-11-21 00:32:55 UTC
Just questioning: does Alphas have the skill to use mining drones?!
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#26 - 2016-11-21 08:40:51 UTC
Zumbas Egdald wrote:
Just questioning: does Alphas have the skill to use mining drones?!


From the Dev blog and Pyfa , No they cant.

Needs "Mining Drones Operation 1" which they don't seem to have.


Even with no mining drones they do get more than 10% extra. No Bling. With a hauler you would make even more as you don't need to warp around ect.

241.8 M3/minute

[Venture, test]

Mining Laser Upgrade I
Miner I
Miner I

277.8M3/minute

[Omen, test]

Mining Laser Upgrade I
Mining Laser Upgrade I
Co-Processor I
Co-Processor I
Mining Laser Upgrade I

Miner I
Miner I
Miner I
Miner I
Miner I

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
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