EVE General Discussion

Rather you're AFK or not, it wont matter... You wont be able to get back in range fast enough too boost your fleet. After Novembers update, a single bumper will be able to knock boosting ships out of range of the barges they support in High sec. The connection between limited mining range boosting and bumping cannot be denied.

There are upgrades for miners this upcoming patch, its true. But at the cost?

The cost being the mining bumping will now actually effect mining production, and be able to stop mining boosting all together in high sec, and this is unacceptable. Actually bumping boosting Orcas out of range will soon be a reality. Gankers/bumpers will now be able to cripple high sec mining ops at will with no more then a bumping ship.

This requires attention and if it does not receive any in the next week, it will be spread through the mining community.

This is a deliberate attack on miners, not just multiboxers, in a Trojan horse 'esc' in sheeps clothing to make it look like a great favor while completely screwing high sec mining, especially multiboxing.

This is an attack on high sec minors.

CCP once again has Goons/CODE working within its CSM ranks to ruin industry.

Indeed it does!

As long as you're not AFK you probably won't be bumped! Pay attention and keep giving boosts!

Code doesn't do that :p

Bump.


[sorry, couldn't resist]

This is exactly where the Porpoise will fit in. For a small reduction of 1% of yield you will have a smaller more maneuverable ship to boost fleets with.

A single bumper won't be able to do much to a booster if said booster is being intelligent. Also, if the booster doesn't have level 1 skills. Fit a Higgs rig, drop an MTU in the center of a belt, and orbit it at a few km.

The Orca, with zero Leadership skills, will have a 22.5km link, which is enough to reach all but the most extreme edges of any highsec static belt. The miners don't need to be humping the rocks at the outer edges at 0 to mine them, so they should be well within this very minimum range.

Add in level V Leadership skills (+6% range per level, or +30% at level IV) and that 22.5km range is now 29.25km.

Add in level V Wing Command (+5% range per level, or +25% at level IV) and that 29.25km range is now 36.56km.

Add in level IV Fleet Command (+4% range per level, or +16% at level IV) and that 36.56km range is now 42.4km.

Most highsec static belts are roughly 50km across, and your boost range with those skills is 86km across.

If you've gotten bumped far enough in an Orca in a highsec static belt that your miners are out of range of their boosts, you've managed to do something very, very wrong.

I see the new salt factories are coming online right on schedule, I guess that's not a bad thing, the old ones certainly are worn out.

Good to see the final quarter is off to a strong start.

Even if you start warp when first detecting ships in warp around you, the bumper will still be able to line you up and bump you around. The Orca is a slow, fat whale of a ship which is getting its mass halved and agility reduced. So one MWD machariel will send you for a jolly ride that you have absolutely no control over.

You can fit an MWD to get into warp in 10 seconds, but at that point you can no longer fit command bursts.

The only option you really have is fitting to reduce maximum speed, stay aligned, and warp out as soon as you see anyone land on grid.

Here is how you'll get bumping fixed: start bumping all the fatcats all over highsec. Doesn't matter what they're doing or where they're doing it, jump bump like crazy!

(that's how goons usually make a point: by exploiting it to death, putting it on the radar)

With a bit of luck, some guy would be willing to pay for you to stop- then you profit bothways. Go go forth, and bump MOAR! Bump it up until someone at CCP realises there might be an issue, otherwise it'll always be 'stupid impudent mining fools don't know how to avoid getting bumped'. Go go go! Bumpsquads awaaaaay!

I think you need to bump that orca with a planet to get him out of range.