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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#161 - 2016-10-19 19:00:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
Teckos Pech wrote:


And capsuleers are...well our immortality has made us out of touch with our fellow humans who are still planet side.



Xenocracy is one of the Chronicles that best shows how out of touch Immortals are to their lessers.

--Librarian Gadget


Edit: This made PI fun again :)

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."
Penance Toralen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#162 - 2016-10-19 21:43:06 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Why has there been no Hulkaggedons in years?
Because the Goons elected to change from a week long competition into a lame perpetual cash cow they wanted to milk. Pff a mere ten million bounty per exhumer - when the moon minerals for exhumer put a hundred million into the Goon coffers through moongoo sales. The first four hulkgeddons were a success without the Goons.

Why bother organising a new Hulkaggedon when there are already existing structures in place such as Code? The familar has breed the comtempt so many seem to crave. Mining ganking has devolved to the point were it is longer distinguishable from rescuing the Damsel. Ganking is supposed to be chaos, but Code has imposed order and structure on it.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#163 - 2016-10-19 22:19:23 UTC
Penance Toralen wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Why has there been no Hulkaggedons in years?
Because the Goons elected to change from a week long competition into a lame perpetual cash cow they wanted to milk. Pff a mere ten million bounty per exhumer - when the moon minerals for exhumer put a hundred million into the Goon coffers through moongoo sales. The first four hulkgeddons were a success without the Goons.

Why bother organising a new Hulkaggedon when there are already existing structures in place such as Code? The familar has breed the comtempt so many seem to crave. Mining ganking has devolved to the point were it is longer distinguishable from rescuing the Damsel. Ganking is supposed to be chaos, but Code has imposed order and structure on it.


Hulkageddon was never run by goons, they just donated to the prize pool a few times.

Code are a direct result of all of the nerfs CCP have made. They started out as a protest group to nerfs being made 4-5 years ago and are now the only people left ganking miners. Miner ganking used to be even more organized than today.
Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#164 - 2016-10-19 22:30:04 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Penance Toralen wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Why has there been no Hulkaggedons in years?
Because the Goons elected to change from a week long competition into a lame perpetual cash cow they wanted to milk. Pff a mere ten million bounty per exhumer - when the moon minerals for exhumer put a hundred million into the Goon coffers through moongoo sales. The first four hulkgeddons were a success without the Goons.

Why bother organising a new Hulkaggedon when there are already existing structures in place such as Code? The familar has breed the comtempt so many seem to crave. Mining ganking has devolved to the point were it is longer distinguishable from rescuing the Damsel. Ganking is supposed to be chaos, but Code has imposed order and structure on it.


Hulkageddon was never run by goons, they just donated to the prize pool a few times.

Code are a direct result of all of the nerfs CCP have made. They started out as a protest group to nerfs being made 4-5 years ago and are now the only people left ganking miners. Miner ganking used to be even more organized than today.

Any other history you would like to distort, so you continue on the narrative of how bad gankers have it now?

Not that I am sure how. After all according to people on these forums the skies are full to the brim with miners just waiting to be ganked and as it only takes 1 or 2 cats to do it, it should be a gankers paradise.

The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.

After all we are not just players, we are customers.

Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#165 - 2016-10-19 22:35:00 UTC
Mark Marconi wrote:

Any other history you would like to distort, so you continue on the narrative of how bad gankers have it now?


My corp made most of that history.
pajedas
Doomheim
#166 - 2016-10-19 22:48:38 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
My corp made most of that history.

↑ Whatever.


Here's a list of people that have, "made history".

  • Donald Henry Gaskins
  • Tsutomu Miyazaki
  • Luis Garavito
  • Ahmad Suradji
  • Alexander Pichushkin
  • Andrei Chikatilo
  • Charles Edmund Cullen
  • Patrick Wayne Kearney
  • Dennis Raider
  • John George Haigh
  • Paul Knowles
  • William Bonin
  • Aileen Wuornos
  • Tommy Lynn Sells
  • Pedro Rodriguez Filho

    • Congratulations.

    🐇
    baltec1
    Bat Country
    Pandemic Horde
    #167 - 2016-10-19 22:52:59 UTC
    pajedas wrote:

    ↑ Whatever.


    Mining interdictions, the gank catalyst, frieghter ganking tactics, burn jita.

    All came out of Bat Country.
    Galaxy Duck
    Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
    #168 - 2016-10-19 22:54:10 UTC
    Thanks Bat Country! :)
    Vimsy Vortis
    Shoulda Checked Local
    Break-A-Wish Foundation
    #169 - 2016-10-19 22:56:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
    I'd generally consider it a badge of honor if people considered me the EVE equivalent of a serial killer.

    I'd be all "Finally, they understand what I was going for all this time!"
    baltec1
    Bat Country
    Pandemic Horde
    #170 - 2016-10-19 23:11:15 UTC
    Vimsy Vortis wrote:
    I'd generally consider it a badge of honor if people considered me the EVE equivalent of a serial killer.

    I'd be all "Finally, the understand what I was going for all this time!"


    We were considered genocidal. It got to the point where on the caldari interdiction we set up an online form to fill in for people to vent at and just mailed that to every victim.
    Penance Toralen
    School of Applied Knowledge
    Caldari State
    #171 - 2016-10-20 01:42:06 UTC
    baltec1 wrote:
    Penance Toralen wrote:
    Teckos Pech wrote:
    Why has there been no Hulkaggedons in years?
    Because the Goons elected to change from a week long competition into a lame perpetual cash cow they wanted to milk. Pff a mere ten million bounty per exhumer - when the moon minerals for exhumer put a hundred million into the Goon coffers through moongoo sales. The first four hulkgeddons were a success without the Goons.

    Why bother organising a new Hulkaggedon when there are already existing structures in place such as Code? The familar has breed the comtempt so many seem to crave. Mining ganking has devolved to the point were it is longer distinguishable from rescuing the Damsel. Ganking is supposed to be chaos, but Code has imposed order and structure on it.


    Hulkageddon was never run by goons, they just donated to the prize pool a few times.

    Code are a direct result of all of the nerfs CCP have made. They started out as a protest group to nerfs being made 4-5 years ago and are now the only people left ganking miners. Miner ganking used to be even more organized than today.


    Bollocks - Hulkageddon 5; http://www.machine9.net/?p=663 the Unholy Union. Goons ran the kill board.

    No, Code was a direct result of a player getting salty over the 10,000 CSM votes getting pissed up against a wall by Mittens. James315 tried multiple methods of being a serial pest, before the GMs gave a pass to bumping. Which is why this tripe exists;

    Quote:
    The New Order of Highsec continues to recognize The Mittani as the legitimate Chairman of the CSM. This determination remains the rule in all New Order territories.
    Teckos Pech
    Hogyoku
    Goonswarm Federation
    #172 - 2016-10-20 03:06:55 UTC
    Penance Toralen wrote:
    baltec1 wrote:
    Penance Toralen wrote:
    Teckos Pech wrote:
    Why has there been no Hulkaggedons in years?
    Because the Goons elected to change from a week long competition into a lame perpetual cash cow they wanted to milk. Pff a mere ten million bounty per exhumer - when the moon minerals for exhumer put a hundred million into the Goon coffers through moongoo sales. The first four hulkgeddons were a success without the Goons.

    Why bother organising a new Hulkaggedon when there are already existing structures in place such as Code? The familar has breed the comtempt so many seem to crave. Mining ganking has devolved to the point were it is longer distinguishable from rescuing the Damsel. Ganking is supposed to be chaos, but Code has imposed order and structure on it.


    Hulkageddon was never run by goons, they just donated to the prize pool a few times.

    Code are a direct result of all of the nerfs CCP have made. They started out as a protest group to nerfs being made 4-5 years ago and are now the only people left ganking miners. Miner ganking used to be even more organized than today.


    Bollocks - Hulkageddon 5; http://www.machine9.net/?p=663 the Unholy Union. Goons ran the kill board.

    No, Code was a direct result of a player getting salty over the 10,000 CSM votes getting pissed up against a wall by Mittens. James315 tried multiple methods of being a serial pest, before the GMs gave a pass to bumping. Which is why this tripe exists;

    Quote:
    The New Order of Highsec continues to recognize The Mittani as the legitimate Chairman of the CSM. This determination remains the rule in all New Order territories.



    You know drinking deep of the kool-aid will not only mess up your ability to think, but will also give you diabetes.

    Might want to switch to water. Roll

    Anyone else remember the days when it was BoB that were the assholes in game?

    "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

    8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
    Mark Marconi
    Ministry of War
    Amarr Empire
    #173 - 2016-10-20 04:26:53 UTC
    BoB caused the creation of the CSM.

    So is that a good or a bad thing?

    The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.

    After all we are not just players, we are customers.

    Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
    Vincent Pelletier
    Pelletier Imports and Exports
    #174 - 2016-10-20 05:35:25 UTC
    baltec1 wrote:
    Vimsy Vortis wrote:
    I'd generally consider it a badge of honor if people considered me the EVE equivalent of a serial killer.

    I'd be all "Finally, the understand what I was going for all this time!"


    We were considered genocidal. It got to the point where on the caldari interdiction we set up an online form to fill in for people to vent at and just mailed that to every victim.


    Not like you invented that or anything. Just as most things that was simply copied from others who did that before, albeit perhaps not on that scale, to then claim it as yours. Don't fall for your own propaganda and history rewriting.
    Jagd Wilde
    Federal Navy Academy
    Gallente Federation
    #175 - 2016-10-20 06:04:42 UTC
    baltec1 wrote:
    and are now the only people left ganking miners.



    That's not even close to true.

    https://zkillboard.com/ship/17478/

    Every alt I own has a red safety, this has brought my friends much laughter.
    Mark Marconi
    Ministry of War
    Amarr Empire
    #176 - 2016-10-20 06:17:42 UTC
    Jagd Wilde wrote:
    baltec1 wrote:
    and are now the only people left ganking miners.



    That's not even close to true.

    https://zkillboard.com/ship/17478/

    That shows the extent of the imbalance better than words could.

    A single crappy destroyer in a lot of cases destroying a ship that is meant to be designed for the dangers of hi-sec. Even tanked they dont stand a chance.

    The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.

    After all we are not just players, we are customers.

    Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
    Jagd Wilde
    Federal Navy Academy
    Gallente Federation
    #177 - 2016-10-20 06:31:31 UTC
    Mark Marconi wrote:
    Jagd Wilde wrote:
    baltec1 wrote:
    and are now the only people left ganking miners.



    That's not even close to true.

    https://zkillboard.com/ship/17478/

    That shows the extent of the imbalance better than words could.

    A single crappy destroyer in a lot of cases destroying a ship that is meant to be designed for the dangers of hi-sec. Even tanked they dont stand a chance.


    Please,
    All that zkill shows is that carebears will always choose to play as if they were entitled to some sort of safety, or a free pass.
    They will antitank a space ship in a space ship shooting game, then park it in space and wait to be killed. All while afk.

    I would say 100% of those dead miners died needlessly, completely their own fault, nothing to do with ship imbalance.

    Every alt I own has a red safety, this has brought my friends much laughter.
    Mark Marconi
    Ministry of War
    Amarr Empire
    #178 - 2016-10-20 06:39:37 UTC
    Jagd Wilde wrote:
    Mark Marconi wrote:
    Jagd Wilde wrote:
    baltec1 wrote:
    and are now the only people left ganking miners.



    That's not even close to true.

    https://zkillboard.com/ship/17478/

    That shows the extent of the imbalance better than words could.

    A single crappy destroyer in a lot of cases destroying a ship that is meant to be designed for the dangers of hi-sec. Even tanked they dont stand a chance.


    Please,
    All that zkill shows is that carebears will always choose to play as if they were entitled to some sort of safety, or a free pass.
    They will antitank a space ship in a space ship shooting game, then park it in space and wait to be killed. All while afk.

    I would say 100% of those dead miners died needlessly, completely their own fault, nothing to do with ship imbalance.

    Maybe they don't know how to tank a ship.

    Its not like it is part of the miners chain of tutorials in game play. Maybe how to tank the hell out of a mining barge needs to be part of the NPE.

    The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.

    After all we are not just players, we are customers.

    Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
    Ima Wreckyou
    The Conference Elite
    The Conference
    #179 - 2016-10-20 06:47:59 UTC
    Mark Marconi wrote:

    Maybe they don't know how to tank a ship.

    Its not like it is part of the miners chain of tutorials in game play. Maybe how to tank the hell out of a mining barge needs to be part of the NPE.

    We are that part of the tutorial.

    Evil RatKid
    March rabbit
    Aliastra
    Gallente Federation
    #180 - 2016-10-20 06:50:46 UTC
    Teckos Pech wrote:
    Mark Marconi wrote:

    So to sum it up your advice is don't be rich in hi-sec.

    So much for the rule of law. As to risk vs reward, I think I understand it better than you. The gankers risk is minuscule in the respect they can continuously do it with no real effects.


    No, if you want a quick summary: Don't be imprudent.

    If you put 8 billion in your freighter, you are being imprudent.


    Just noting: you love to repeat this but lossmails of empty freghters do not help you

    The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"