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[GAME MECHANIC] [LOL Kill mail] [Cry baby] Police and illegal goods

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Elijah Boondock
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#1 - 2016-10-07 02:00:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Elijah Boondock
Backstory:
I was trying to make isk off of a market trade using Eve-central. I didn't know know that slaves were an illegal item ( in the forge) at the time of purchase (i live in amarr and we are allowed to have slaves) or i wouldn't have bought them.
So i was originally flying my freighter (La Amistad) and had to dock and remove them in Niarja, no idea What Would Happen if i jumped.
I researched on traveling with illegal goods online. From the post and articles i read it seemed that a tech II industrial ship could do it. So i grabbed the old dusty Busterd out of my hanger and renamed it (La Amistad) and was off. I even followed the align, cloak + MWD, one cycle and warp trick on assigned keys F1 and F2.

BUSTARD DIED AND I STILL HAVE NO CLUE WHAT HAPPENED TO MY PRECIOUS SLAVES. I'M VERY UPSET AS I THINK THE CALDARI POLICE SOLD THEM BACK TO AMARR. I only wanted a better life for them in Jita and of course the small income profit i would make for doing such a noble service.

Issues
>; There is no lock from caldari navy saying that they are scanning my cargo. I got the prompt as i hit align that's like 0.03 seconds
>; How did i make it thur 2 gates, but not the third? Higher security status 0.8?
>; I was in panic mode when the message popped up and only read YES and NO. I clicked no, as in no i don't wish to die. Maybe you could relabel them "Pay Fine" and "Ship death and then pay the Fine". Not sure why there is an option at all.
>; Why after my ship death do i still have to pay the fine? I just lost a 250 million ship and now have to pay 50 million who came up with that idea? Tell me, so i can write a personal hate mail and kick them in the balls at fan-fest?
^ With that said my wallet is not right. I'm not complaining as i have more isk then i should by my quick calculation.
>; The amount of the fine 46 million. All the research i read online said it would be a small fine. They said the could still make a profit after getting caught. No way in hell.
>; How are we suppose to transport these goods around HS as i don't see a way after what just happened. Its easier to get Thur a null system then HS, you have to be shitting me. (please don't recommend a crane, i have one. i had 250,000 M3 of slaves to move 5 trips verse 25)
>; I also read if you jettison the illegal cargo they stop. I did jettison out of my cargo hold. And tried out of my fleet hanger but found out i can't jettison out of my Fleet hanger WTF So i frantically tried to move it to the cargo hold and jettison, as much as i could got one stack. 50,000 fleet hanger and i had like 4k free in my hold to jettison at a time. FAIL Died after two transfers.
>; I tried to make it back to the gate but with 4ms and 0ms at the end, i didn't. Thats some crazy webbing, I've never came to a stop from so few webs before.
> No cap drain symbol was showing above my shields GUI, but my cap went bad after 1 minuet. Ingame Fit tool said 3 minuets and i didn't have both boosters running, the cloak running, or my MWD running as i was scrammed. So not sure why I couldn't activate my second booster after 1 minuet and was out of cap.

In review
I wish there was more written on this subject, as i wouldn't have even tried, insta Police BS. Out over half a billion from buying the damn slaves, the ship, and the fine. Wish at time of purchase it would tell you "You are buying a commodity illegal in BLANK Regions" i wouldn't have bought them. Please for the love of god, relabel the prompt boxes that pop up. show the fine amount prior to the person picking an option. I would have chosen "YES".
PS some players said they just kept flying without ever choosing an option not sure if its true.

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The above was written as a bug report due to this ISK issue. I got a note saying we don't care post it on the forum. I was upset but figure it will at least serve as entertainment. I left the game for years to play DUST 514 and just came back not sure i like the direction eve has and is going. Some of the above things are noteworthy due too what i feel as BS mechanics for police as that same ship has survived multiple small gate camps (5 players vs 1 or less) and made it back to the gate safely.

PODS that have -5 standings can get through HS, but a damn slave in cargo WTF. (Pro slave owner go amarr!)

Upon double checking lost over a billion due to the skin. Kill Mail on zkillmail

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YeuxVerts Belle
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2016-10-07 07:34:34 UTC
Elijah Boondock wrote:
BUSTARD DIED AND I STILL HAVE NO CLUE WHAT HAPPENED TO MY PRECIOUS SLAVES

They died. Call it a better life.
Moving illegal goods is, well, illegal. Local police always knows, without scanning (which is, i agree with you, a problem). Whether they choose to act is chance-based, once for every system you enter in.

What research you did on the topic is both incomplete and incorrect. When blockade runners were made cargo-scan immune, it was also suggested they be made immune to police scan. That suggestion hasn't been implemented. And that suggestion never meant to hit deep space transports.

As for the question and the buttons, you were in panic mode. You wouldn't have read longer button labels anyway. Since you didn't read the message, you didn't and still don't know what the question was, it's all on you, and you should stop complaining.

TL;DR :
OP tried to transport illegal goods in highsec, didn't do any good research on the topic, and ended up losing 2.5B.
Bring the pop-corn.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#3 - 2016-10-08 13:34:51 UTC
You didn't think carrying slaves was illegal? What are you, some kind of unreconstructed Southern plantation owner? GTFO

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ResKriv
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#4 - 2016-10-11 04:20:37 UTC
Legal tab when you check info is quite.....informative.