Crime & Punishment

So due to a 3-6 hour bump in Sivala @ Uedama gate today, it shows a continued need for this feature. Then a day before that, I witnessed bumped and held an Orca in Uedama for over an hour. This type of bumping is harassment. Before all the gankers jump up in arms, I am not, and have ever thought about taking ganking or even bumping away, but the ability to bump someone for hours in highsec is not right. CCP must agree with this, since they have come up with the 3 minute warp timer solution. We just don't know when it is coming. Soon please!!

The 3 minute warp timer this is an important roll against the endless bumping if it is done right. There was a mention of sucide scramming a freighter to continue to reset the 3 minute timer. If that is the way it is done, it really won't fix the problem of bumping. So I suggest the following:

The 3 minute timer should start the timer from the moment the warp button is pushed... If a scram is put on The freighter (or any ship potentially) and the person applying the scram becomes criminal, the warp timer should continue as normal. If the person applying the scram does not turn criminal ( due to a war dec ) then the warp timer is stopped, and the freighter is stuck

This would only be applied in high sec, null and low will not have this dynamic.

Thanks!

If they bump you for that long without a ransom demand, it's ticket-worthy. They're keeping you from playing the game.

Nothing is keeping you from playing the game. Conflict is part of it.

And realize that what they can do to you, you can do right back to them. It isn't an exploit because you have access to it too. Bumping isn't only a one-way street. It is possible to bump the bumpers off of their target so the 'victim' can warp off.

People just choose not to...

Nothing wrong here, please move on.

3-6 hours?

Really. Was it closer to 3, or 6?

I know either is pretty long and beyond what many would consider reasonable, however such an imprecise figure suggests bullshit (exaggeration) at play here.

It was between 30 seconds and 3 days ok

I remember bumping a certain orca that was going to be a wt in an hours time for the full length of that hour

It was for about 10 minutes until his corp started to desperately try and save it. all manner of things was tried including logging off, webbing, threats, pleads about poorness. Was a good day all in all

Exactly... Gank it or move along.

Of course it will fix the problem of bumping. Bumping will no longer be able to hold a ship for more than three minutes. If you want to hold it longer, you will have to commit a criminal act and disrupt the freighter's warp drive. CONCORD will then destroy the tackler, just like it destroys any aggressor, and justice is served and you can then go about trying to initiate warp again.

Unless you have overloaded your cargo to an amazing degree, no one is going to suicide tackle you every three minutes for 3-6 hours. And if they do, well you probably deserve it for annoying/tempting someone that much to go through such a hassle.

In any case, we haven't heard hide nor hair of this change since it was announced almost 6 months ago. We don't know exactly what form it will take so when (if?) it appears on Sisi, so wait until then before you begin your agitation for yet more free safety.

We are almost there guys. Just this one more nerf, and it will all be perfectly balanced!

Because antiganking got bored of trying to protect a freighter that wouldn't pay a ransom they are now demanding ANOTHER nerf.

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CCP please save the freighters that we cant save ourselves!! antiganking demand it!!