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stuls serohw
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-09-27 12:33:41 UTC  |  Edited by: stuls serohw
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Lord Ra
Sicarius.
#2 - 2016-09-27 12:58:36 UTC
Posting from an alt in an NPC corporation with little or no collateral. Why do you people even bother?.
stuls serohw
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-09-27 13:04:07 UTC  |  Edited by: stuls serohw
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Lord Ra
Sicarius.
#4 - 2016-09-27 13:06:39 UTC
stuls serohw wrote:
Lord Ra wrote:
Posting from an alt in an NPC corporation with little or no collateral. Why do you people even bother?.


I post from this alt because my mains name is a tad bit silly if you would like to know how it is i can mail you in game. Also yes i am aware that "little or no collateral" will turn off most people, but it is worth one try before i grind the isk manually.



I think you owe it to the market discussion community to take off the cape and show us who you are, i'm 100% sure the name can't be that bad?.

So who is, the batman?.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#5 - 2016-09-27 13:14:34 UTC
I don't think you'll get investment in this as it currently stands.

Have you considered using BPCs instead of BPOs initially? You can get them all pretty cheaply, probably more cheaply than the research costs and interest payments you'd be forced to pay on the BPOs. It would slash the up front investment required and allow you to then buy BPOs over time with your profits.

Alternatively, buy the BPOs under lockdown in an NPC station, then you have the use of them (albeit in a different location to the one you had planned) and the person giving you the loan has the BPOs as collateral. When you pay off the loan, the BPOs get handed over to you.

Anything that doesn't involve us handing over a stack of isk and just hoping that someday we'll see it back.
stuls serohw
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-09-27 13:23:30 UTC  |  Edited by: stuls serohw
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stuls serohw
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-09-27 13:28:33 UTC  |  Edited by: stuls serohw
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stuls serohw
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-09-27 13:36:30 UTC  |  Edited by: stuls serohw
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#9 - 2016-09-27 13:44:39 UTC
stuls serohw wrote:
Thank you for the suggestion do you know if any reliable bpc's providers. If i were to go with this option it would cut the price of the loan down to 30bil.

You can find plenty of well researched Chimera and Capital Component BPCs on contracts in Jita every day. They are tiny, low value and therefore easy to transport. Some capital hull BPCs can get pricey when there is a shortage, but most remain a pretty efficient way to get in to the market. You can always mail the people you buy from on public contracts and try to negotiate a regular contract at a discount price.

I don't know how you'll raise the rest of the isk however. You have a shortage of all the things we generally look for in an investment.
stuls serohw
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-09-27 13:47:39 UTC  |  Edited by: stuls serohw
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#11 - 2016-09-27 13:59:16 UTC
stuls serohw wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:


I don't know how you'll raise the rest of the isk however. You have a shortage of all the things we generally look for in an investment.

Besides no collateral what else am i lacking.

Any kind of history: You have no track record as a borrower. You have no past participation in market discussions. You have no verifiable track record of running industrial operations.

At the moment, you're just some random who has rolled up asking for tens of billions.

Your business plan isn't exactly stellar either, seemingly you haven't put in as much research as someone looking for strangers to trust him with tens of billions should have done.

People who want to suddenly get in to capital production out of a nullsec POS and want someone else to bankroll it, are exactly the kind of people who lose investors lots of isk. Then we would have nothing but a thanks for all the fish post to console ourselves with.
stuls serohw
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-09-27 14:08:34 UTC  |  Edited by: stuls serohw
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#13 - 2016-09-27 14:13:09 UTC
stuls serohw wrote:
it's in low sec
It's still not a safe investment.

stuls serohw wrote:
also are you the one that did the titan bpo scam
Pirate
stuls serohw
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2016-09-27 14:15:13 UTC  |  Edited by: stuls serohw
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#15 - 2016-09-27 14:21:02 UTC
stuls serohw wrote:
It's being done in mc's staging bout as safe as it gets.

That might be true if you were spending your own isk on setting it up. It's a very different story for an outside investor.
Skia Aumer
Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC
#16 - 2016-09-27 14:28:44 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Your business plan isn't exactly stellar either, seemingly you haven't put in as much research as someone looking for strangers to trust him with tens of billions should have done.

Absolutely.
Heading straight for BPOs without even considering BPCs shows the lack of planning. I'm not going to ask what will be the source of minerals and how sure can you be in demand, as I'm not going to give a loan anyway. But I'm suspicious those issues are not quite worked out.
stuls serohw
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-09-27 14:38:22 UTC  |  Edited by: stuls serohw
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Skia Aumer
Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC
#18 - 2016-09-27 15:27:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Skia Aumer
stuls serohw wrote:
I planed just to jf all minerals down from jita.

That's what I'm talking about.
2 JF runs per 1 chimera is 80 mil isk for fuel only. Not including your efforts and risks, which amount from 300 up to 500 mil (see pushx and black frog prices).
Looks like you have no idea what is compressed ore, and you should.
For some reason, you refuse to use your alliance logistics, though you could.
Your sales are not guaranteed, and you do have competitors.
I wish you good luck in your endeavor. But probably you have to work it out without external finances.
stuls serohw
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2016-09-27 15:54:39 UTC  |  Edited by: stuls serohw
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Toobo
Project Fruit House
#20 - 2016-09-27 16:25:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Toobo
\o/

Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!
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