EVE General Discussion

It always had issues with retention, even when it was growing, sio that it nothing new.

And no one is defending stagnation, simply saying that many people's ide of 'progress' isn't actually progress, it's an attempt to mainstream a niche game. It's like saying "this biker bar would be WAY better is it turned into a Starbucks" lol. Some of us are saying "EVE should progress, yes, into a better spaceship focused pvp-centric game, not some mushy space barbie hand holding game". Rejecting YOUR idea of progress is not rejecting progress.



But like i said, I get it, you don't like EVE (it's EVE's Game mechanics that attracts it's crowd) and have (in find prejudiced fashion) passed judgement on 10s of thousands of people you don't know. But somehow you can't just leave it alone and play something you actually like. This is why I say i know that EVEN after SC ships, the WiS complainers will still be here. Because (as Star Trek Online demonstrates), the whole "I'll leave for that competeing space game" screed WiS types shout at every turn is a lie.

You yourself are proof, as you said in the SC thread, some of SC is playable, yet here you still are, coming back after several public quitting bouts. If YOU can't stop coming back to something that causes so much hate within you, why do you think others won't as well?

While I don't know you, I've seen the type, the folks who don't like certain people but can't stand to not be around them (like a feminist in a strip club,or a vegan who can't seem to stay out of Outback Steakhouse ). It kind of makes the whole "they are toxic and I wish they'd go away" thing a lie, does it not?

If EVE's "toxic" community went away you'd just go and find another one, because you seem to need them.

Stop posting for a while because I want to write something and I am afraid it will drown in a sea of words nobody will read. And I think its important what I have to write.


If indeed CIG is a dictatorship, and indeed EVE is more like democracy and its seen in its structure of the game, then the people who try both would stay with EVE longer, but SC would get more followers in a short timespan to then burn out fast.

Its because democracy caters to many different groups and developers must make many groups at least mildly satiated, while still providing constant changes and evolution. In dictatorship only one, strongest group is preferred, that gives the best applauds for what dictator is doing. After this group is exploited, game becomes stale, there is no more followers with new ideas because dictator doesnt cater to many groups, doesnt listen to them, and people move along somewhere else, bored. If different groups will initially be there, only this one group that dictator is initially going after will remain, although also reduced.

From history you can see that Icelandic people had this. I dont know if that is in their cultural heritage or what, but certain aspects of EVE are remainding me of it.

Good question.

Apparently my racism for Caldari characters has proven to be problematic.

Because my favorite play style used drones and , I simply trained all my Caldari characters into drone boats.

So I just deleted my throw away ganker alt and created a Galente one only as Galente F2P race can get drones 5.

I suppose I could have waited to the 15th or just created a new account altogether, but I wanted to keep this on one account.

And I was bored and impatient.

Dictatorship and democracy is named because of the rules it employs. Enforcing rules is mandatory to call it one or the other. If the enforcing is broken, you can say the system is failing and in need of repair.

You cant change from one rule to the other on whim because the way EVE is designed enforces democratic rule on ground level, by players fitting in the game mechanics. The discussion and conflicts inside EVE is never ending process, but it assures that everyone even with conflicting interests will be listened and their will enforced at least partially.

Have you googled "Star Citizen 3.0 Gamescon demo".

It's worth watching.

I do hope Leagion is successful and dosed become an entry portal into the WIS equivalent in Eve-online.

There is no Legion anymore.

There is Project Nova, which has taken the stats on integration of Dust with Eve to conclude that Eve players don't want an Eve integrated FPS.

So Project Nova is just an FPS that is aiming to be a high quality free FPS. Integration with Eve isn't really in the design plans.

http://www.polygon.com/2016/4/21/11477884/ccp-project-nova-pc-eve-online