Ships & Modules

So I really like the idea of having a mining career. I'd like to get a Hulk at some point. I managed to get enough money to purchase a Procurer and some decent fittings. After mining in a Venture for a few months I thought spending 25 million on a new ship would be a huge step forward in my game. My loot from the Venture would be about 500,000 per trip, mining in hi-sec. My haul from the Procurer is about 1.5 to 2 million per haul. But here's the thing... It takes about four times the length to fill up the Procurer VS. the Venture, so it doesn't seem to be that much of a difference. I realize that I could have better fittings on my Procurer to speed things up and there are always skills, but in general, am I missing something? I'm wondering now that I have a better ship if I should be mining in low sec or ice mining? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

I'm using two strip miner 1s, 4 mining drones and a bunch of shield buffs. Thanks for the suggestion about the anomaly. I've been told that mining is a very boring career patch since day one. It doesn't bother me. I play while I do work on the computer.

Thanks for the awesome info! I wasn't using a mining laser upgrade. I'm using a damage control and Micro Auxiliary Core so that I can have enough power for two strip miners. So I guess I should do the mining upgrade instead of having two strip miners. From what I've read it seems ice mining is where it's at when it comes to Money.

It's hard to imagine how a Procurer can run out of power grid. I suspect you are doing something unreasonable in your mid slots.
EFT has not been updated for the recent barge updates but this fit has loads of fitting headroom with minimal skills:

[Procurer, Procurer]
IFFA Compact Damage Control
Mining Laser Upgrade I

Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
ML-3 Scoped Survey Scanner

Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I


Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

EHP is in the 55000 range. A flight of warriors or hobgoblins will deal with rats.
If you really do have a power grid issue I recommend using a rig rather than a module to fix it. replace one of the Core Defense Field Extenders with an Ancillary Current Router I.

If you can fit T2 Damage Control or Invulnerability fields do so.

For a little more mining power, you could aim for this.

[Procurer, New DNA-imported loadout]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Thermal Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

Unscrupulous people in highsec will likely try to gank you using Catalysts (and kinetic+thermal damage from blasters). This will make you tanky enough for people to go kill the other guy instead.

You can still be bumped, so pay attention and never stand still.

I'm glad you're getting some solid advice in here.

Don't forget your Processing skills for each ore either, lv4 unlocks the T2 crystals to use with Modulated Strip Miners.

They also increase the yield when you process it all.

Yeah, I'm getting some great advice. I'm still reading everything and really listening to everyone's feedback. I want to have fun with this game of course, but also take it seriously and excel in a career. Again... Thanks everyone!

If you try to copy a fit from youtube or someone's blog, check how long ago that fit was posted.

CCP is constantly tinkering with the stats of various ships and modules. A fit that worked well a couple of years ago may not work well today if CCP changed the stats of the ship or the modules after that fit was posted. The stats on mining ships were changed a few weeks ago. As an example, Procurers used to only be able to fit one strip miner, now they can fit two of them.

With that fit you have 46k EHP to a Coercer with pulse and coflag. It can pass 530Dps with T2 ammo. Who needs Catalysts?

I have alts and stuff that do multiple things.

Station trading in null I'm usually making about 40-60 million per day. That's just making 3-5 jumps to a station at about 0600 EVE time when it's dead and coming back. One trip. It might take a day or two for all that stuff to sell, but the next day I've already made another trip and already brough in another 40-60 million worth profit of stuff to sell.

Combat gains can be unpredictable, usually every day or two I will manage to ninja loot some Pith module worth 150 million, or intercept a hauler carrying a bunch of ore or something. But as I said, unpredictable. So far from looting kills, I've collected about 100 million isk worth of male exotic dancers and janitors from wrecks......

I have an alt that has been sitting in Jita for two years doing nothing but margin trading and has never undocked since getting there. Depending if I'm paying attention to the market or if things go well I can make anywhere from 1-100 million every two or three days on him. At the moment I'm going for some of the cheaper commodities after having some staggering losses and seem to be making 20-30 million profit every two days.

My main makes battleships and battlecruisers and sells them out in null which is extremely profitable. I've nearly got enough isk to start my first capital production run.

There is also ratting I've just started trying, I'm making 20 million every 20 or so minutes while dual-boxing. But I find it a little boring and only do it if there is no pewpew content or nothing is happening on the market.

My point is...... Mining is crap. It's not worth the time and there is much MUCH more profitable and quicker, less boring things to do in EVE. If you insist on mining though, at least join a nullsec corp, and mine out there. There is much more profitable minerals, gas and ice, while also being able to sell them at inflated prices. Bottom line is though, mining is boring and not that profitable. If you really want to do it you should have an alt. Also Planetary Interaction would also be a good method of passive income to couple with mining.